Doug, Martin, Yinan, list , -
I'm not an expert in petroglyphics, but I think, taking into consideration
the stylistic differences between some of the graphical elements, Yinan
could be right with his assumption that we have here a kind of palimpsest,
showing different "layers" from (perhaps dramatically) different times.
Above all it's quite difficult for me to verify any possible
meteorite-related form (stellar constellations, maybe).
And, yes of course, Doug: the Pluto-trick is ingenious. As soon as the
interstellar battleships from Beteigeuze arrive and take Venus broadside
under fire with their desintegrator-batteries, we'll lean back comfortably
and have some popcorn. And a bit later: finally the first Venusian
meteorites :-)
Best,
Matthias
----- Original Message -----
From: "MexicoDoug" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ancient Chinese imapct
Very interesting drawings if they are authentic! Gave me a laugh of what
cultures, primitive or arrogantly thinking themselves "modern" whatever
modern means to the universe...
The first thing I thought was aliens communicating with primitive man
through the language of ball-and-stick chemical formulae representations
;-) Reminded me of a primitive "Sounds of Earth" golden record, or
hydrogen plaque on Pioneer (Ha Ha! Pluto gets the last laugh as the
ninth planet on our only communication with the external orb on the
subject! Now when the aliens come from uptown to find us, if they ask
directions, they will be looking on Venus)
Kindest wishes
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Yinan Wang <[email protected]>
To: karmaka <[email protected]>
Cc: meteorite-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Sep 5, 2011 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ancient Chinese imapct
My two cents on this topic:
The pictures are not detailed enough, it's essentially a rorschach test.
Also, there appears to be more than one generation of petroglyphs, in
the first link (of copied material); the panel on the left appears to
be a much later generation than the stick-figure petroglyphs to the
right. So the flying-fish-rocket thing could possibly be only a few
hundred years old. Just like in Petroglyphs in the American southwest,
crosses were added by spanish explorers and missionaries a few hundred
years ago to the classic southwest petros.
-Yinan
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:48 AM, karmaka <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear list members,
I think I've found pictures of the real petroglyphs in Chifeng, Inner
Mongolia/Northern China
http://img.blog.cntv.cn/attachments/2011/08/10726716_201108290543391.jpg
http://img.blog.cntv.cn/attachments/2011/08/10726716_201108290540581.jpg
http://img.blog.cntv.cn/attachments/2011/08/10726716_201108290548551.jpg
in this Chinese blog (cntv.cn):
(machine-translated from Chinese)
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.cntv.cn%2F10726716-2619901.html[http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.cntv.cn%2F10726716-2619901.html]
This is another webpage about the petroglyphs from July 2010:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.de&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://blog.cntv.cn/10726716-1290534.html[http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.de&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://blog.cntv.cn/10726716-1290534.html]
I'd like to know what you think about the interpretation of the
petroglyphs?
It's sometimes hard to understand the machine-translated English
text, though.
Is there a Chinese speaking list member who could let us know if the
translation is more or less accurate?
Best wishes
Martin
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: karmaka <[email protected]>
Gesendet: 27.08.2011 23:01:59
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Ancient Chinese imapct
Hi E.P. and list,
The picture used in the article does show petroglyphs from Irkutsk in
Russia.
Thus it was used only for illustration purposes
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fw
ww.gazetairkutsk.ru%2F2010%2F09%2F02%2Fid21881%2F
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fr
us.ruvr.ru%2F2010%2F10%2F21%2F27398750.html
I would like to see the real ones from .
Best wishes
Martin
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "E.P. Grondine" <[email protected]>
Gesendet: 27.08.2011 22:15:38
An: [email protected]
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Ancient Chinese imapct
Hi all -
http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/08/27/55273149.html
As usual, cometary, so no good hunting for meteorites.
If I ever locate any of those...
good hunting, everyone
E.P.
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