WOW---some pretty good calculations and science there Doug----BRAVO!!
NASA screws up yet again!!

Kirk.....:-)

----- Original Message ----- From: "MexicoDoug" <mexicod...@aim.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:31 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 1 in 3200 odds of human impact (help)


Hi listers

I'm very suspicious of this widely quoted 1 in 3200 that is being passed off as a scientific number by NASA.

Not 1:3000, nor between 1:1000 to 1:10,000: but 1:3200.

This foolishly precise assertation, which if you've read "The Little Prince" you immediately suspect it is overstated due to the author's calculations 70 years ago there...where a similar calculation is actually done ...

Average cross sectional area of a person? (Depends if it is in the morning when everyone is praying, I guess, or in the afternoon when everyone is running out of work)...let's say:

Cross section per person:18 inches by 18 inches (1.5 x 1.5 sq. feet)
World population: 6.964 X 10^9 living souls
World Area: 196,939,900 sq miles

Calculations:

* Cross section per person = 2.5 sq. feet

* current world population occupies 624.3 square miles
(a wee bit bigger than Guam, and smaller than Singapore)

* people that could fit on Earth's surface: 2,196,000,000,000,000 (2.2 million X 10^9)

* Fraction of Earth's surface that's "people" = 6.96 / (2,196,000) = 0.00000317 = People occupy *ONLY* 3.2 parts per million (3.2 ppm) of the earth's surface

So, saving rounding till the end, each piece of UARS actually has a 1/315,457 chance of falling on people (1/0.00000317). In rounded numbers, that's about 1:320,000 per fragment ==> 26 fragments approximately 1:12,000 chance.

I guess if you are American you need more space than if you are Indonesian, and changing it to a 18 inches X 17 inches would change the result by 6% ie, if 3200 were right for 18X18 it would now be about 1:3000, and that is one of so many assumptions making the 3200 number a total joke of fake scientific confidence. If you gave everyone a square yard ((91.4 cm)^2) instead, it would be in the 3000 range.

But here are the defficiencies I think of looking at it this way:

* this looks at the whole world vs. the limited satellite trace. A true measurement would do a little calculus along the path considering the population density and the probability of earlier or later entry which could change probabilities by an order of magnitude easily.

* I think what I did would work for 26 darts, but not hunks of significant size compared to a person's area unit.

* Finally there is the Sylacauga effect for bouncing material that will affect things another factor of 2, 3, 4 who knows...

There must be a half dozen other complicating factors to do this right. Does anyone know what has been considered to arrive at the bogusly precise 3200-1 odds being fed to us?

Love to hear any improvements on the above model (if you can call it a model) which I got the 1:12,000 as a streaming (unverified) starting point ...

Kindest wishes
Doug

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