Hi all - 

I see from today's news that many people are still confused by the extinctions 
caused by the Holocene Start Impacts. Its really pretty easy, as Elephants need 
450 pounds of food a day. 

Perhaps the following will explain it better. 
Good hunting, all - 
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas


Several posters here are interested in Harlan Bretz and the spread of his 
catastrophist hypothesis for the formation of the Washington sacablands. 
Currently, while all geologists agree that the scablands were formed by 
catastrophic flooding, there is debate over whether they were caused by the 
release of one or multiple lakes and exactly when the flooding(s) occurred. Of 
course, as oil companies have for years been drilling cores off the coast of 
Washington, those questions could be readily answered, except that those cores 
are proprietary.  

I spent some time reading through Adrienne Mayor's book "Fossil Legends of the 
First Americans" recently. It turns out that the Assiniboine (Nakota) may have 
remembered at least one of those floods. Mayor's book is pretty good, and she 
nearly succeeds in spanning the two worlds, but sadly she did not realize that 
the peoples remembered impacts, and thus failed to entirely grasp fundamental 
concepts like "uktena" and "tlanwa". Mayor also retells the traditions with her 
intense interest in fossils coloring her retellings, and it is tough using her 
book to locate the original traditions as they were first shared. However, that 
said, it is a pretty good book.


Fragment 1:

"One Assiniboine name for bones of monstrous size was "Wau-wau-kah". This was a 
"half spirit, half animal" imagined as a great river monster with long 
black[?]hair, scales, and horns like trees. 

"Myth [tradition - epg] tells of its death by the impact of a "thunder stone", 
a black ["black" due to the ablated surfaces of the meteorites which the Nakota 
later collected. - epg], projectile that came whistling out of the west with 
"terrible velocity", "defeaning noise", and "a bright flash" - a scenario that 
seems akin to the modern theory of an asteroid impact 65 million years ago 
[Mayor gets very close here - epg]. "My bones may be found", warned the Water 
Monster Wau-wau-kah, but unless the Assiniboines made offerings to its spirit, 
the monster vowed to create disastrous floods and block their trails with its 
colossal bones."

Fragment 2: 

"A tale [tradition - epg] of the antagonism between Thunder and Water Monsters 
was recounted by an Assiniboine story teller [tradition keeper - epg] (perhaps 
Coming Day? - AM) in 1909 at Fort Belknap. 

"Long ago, some Sioux and Assiniboines camping at a big lake witnessed a battle 
between Thunder Bird and a Water Monster on an island in the lake."

The storyteller's grandmother had told him that: "as the Thunder Bird drew the 
writhing monster up from the island, the Indians' hair and their horses manes, 
[a non-temporal insertion? - epg] stood on end from the electricity. 

["electricity" is another non-temporal insertion. Perhaps it may also be a 
modern simple telling of a large electrophorenic effect from the impactors 
entries. In regards to the "horses manes", it needs to be noted that a rider on 
a horse in the plains is a high point that will attract lightening, much as a 
golfer standing on a gold course will, and thus it was very important to know 
the signs of an impending lightening strike.]

"The Thunder Bird's lightening ignited raging forest fires; then a long 
terrible blizzard followed; and still later the lake bed dried up and many 
kinds of animals perished there."

"The raging forest fires" were likely caused by the infrared of multiple 
impacts. "the long terrible blizzard" describes the a standard severe climate 
collapse caused by atmospheric impact dust loading. 

"the Lake" of the Assiniboine is as yet unlocated; perhaps it was Lake Agassiz, 
but much more likely it was a glacial lake much further south ("forest fires"). 

Why did that lake dry up? Either its ice damn failed ("disasterous floods", 
above), or there was a lack of precipitation due to a cooling of the 
temperature of the Pacific Current. 

"The many kinds of animals" likely perished due to lack of food, a famine which 
appears as a common element in many of the First Peoples' memories of the 
Holocene Start Impacts.


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