Mike, Maybe there are typos in the maps??? I do know that Marc's map and my map did not match last night and I think I caught some errors and communicated that with him. Mine matched Peter's data. He may have received different data, I am not sure.

We are submitting a few more finds today, Terry Scott and Rob Crane and Ruben Garcia's. While these are small frags, only a few of us were actually collecting frags on the days we were hunting. Working on the map and database files now. If you do know of bad data, maybe get that to Peter.

Keep in mind that some of this is fluid and considered provisional data which is subject to change. For example, SM15 changed today. This is typical. Also, many folks did not have GPS units and the finds used the "pointy finger" approach on Google Earth.

Will be interesting to learn what the name of this fall will be!

Jim



----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hankey" <[email protected]>
To: "jason utas" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Jim Wooddell" <[email protected]>; "Michael Farmer" <[email protected]>; "Marc Fries" <[email protected]>; "Meteorite-list" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date


Jason,

I agree with what you are saying. Most of the finds are going to come
from the easier/clear spots where the most people are looking hardest.
I do think the majority of the finds are being recorded properly, but
there have been some that have not been. Jim, I don't want to get into
specifics publicly or make any accusations.

Just saying: It would be nice if people would report the true location
of their finds, and if they can't or don't want to, to just not report
the find at all or keep the coordinates private. Posting fake
coordinates is just a really crappy thing to do.

In the grand scheme of things, most of the finds are probably correct,
but I'm sure there are some that are not.

Thanks,

Mike


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:45 PM, jason utas <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Jim, Michael, All,
I'm not so sure about that. Our team made the majority of its finds
along roadsides because it was the easiest place to spot meteorites.
Hunting in grass as your team did (Mike Hankey) is all very well for
finding larger stones (and congrats on your find). But - smaller
stones would be much harder to spot in grass. Finds on trails should
have nothing to do with ethics, as trails typically belong to the land
they run through.
...And that 7.3 gram stone I found was sitting right in the middle of
the trail (I'll post a photo on facebook soon). I'm impressed by Mark
Dayton's nearby five-gram find -- he must have been bush-whacking, and
there was *a lot* of poison-oak in there. We spent some time
off-trail in there, but it was tough going, and you'd have to just
about step on a meteorite in order to find it. Same goes for most
grassy areas.
Jason

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jim Wooddell <[email protected]> wrote:
Mike,

Which finds are you talking about???

I think Peter is confirming all of them.


Jim



----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hankey" <[email protected]>
To: "Michael Farmer" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Marc Fries" <[email protected]>; "Meteorite-list"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date



i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to
err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say.

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmer <[email protected]>
wrote:

Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak
slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Fries <[email protected]> wrote:

Howdy all

There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite
fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for keeping up with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these meteorites
with masses and find locations:

http://asima.seti.org/sm/

I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map:


http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/

I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to
hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to point out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that most of the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like there's
still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...!

Cheers,
Marc Fries
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