Dear Steve,
Your message to the list regarding Robert Burnham and your relationship
with him (as well as yours and Robert's relationship with Harvey
Nininger, and Glenn Huss ) is a TRUE treasure and was a marvel to read!
It is very interesting, and exciting, to know there is someone on our
list who had known Robert personally as well as having the most enviable
opportunity to work with such a stellar ( pun intended ) -- though a
most under appreciated -- scholar/scientist of his time. I would love
to read more of your times with Robert, Harvey, Glenn, and more on you
and your remarkable career if at all possible. Have you thought perhaps
to pen a book or publish papers/documents of your own history (i.e.,
photos, personal letters, receipts of purchases, and other relevant
stories you have collected over a long career and passionate hobby ,
etc. )? I'm not trying to be presumptuous nor invade your privacy, but
I'm sure there are many on our list that would agree with my sentiments
on this!
Well, I for one would be most appreciative of anything you see fit and
are willing to share with us on the list regarding your experiences such
as the one you just so kindly shared -- with your time and good graces
approving!
Kind regards,
Mal
On 6/24/2012 1:03 PM, Steve Schoner wrote:
I happened to go through my old mybluelight account, which I still see is up,
even though I canceled my account with them I noticed Message 21 on June 12th
2012, which I have attached at the bottom of my rely.
I worked with Robert Burnham at Lowell Observatory from 1971 to 1974. I remember him as a
very shy withdrawn man small house on Lowell Observatory grounds. I spent quite a few
times with him after working with him and Norm Thomas on the Proper Motion Program where
we cataloged various stars that had motions as seen against more distant stars. This
involved using the blink comparator, the very thing that Clyde Tombaugh used in making
the historic discovery of Pluto, the no so called "Dwarf Planet" (I still think
it a full Planet though).
That aside, as a person Robert Burnham was a very intelligent man. Among one of
the smartest persons I have ever known. He knew how to read Egyptian
hieroglyphics, had an avid interest in Abraham Lincoln, and was a virtual
walking library when it came to the stars above. One could at night point out
specific stars and he could tell you everything about them.
And I remember the many nights we spent observing the stars using those great
refracting telescopes at Lowell. One night in particular sticks in my mind to
this very day. The opposition of Mars in 1971. We used the apochromatic
refractor to observe mars in absolutely clear sky virtually free of any
turbulence. No winds that night, and it seemed the air extremely tranquil, as
if the air was not even there. The view of Mars was extraordinary, and as
Robert and I observed the planet directly it was as if it were the size of a
tennis ball at arms length. And that night, it was the only night like this, we
could actually see over several hours that we observed Martian clouds drifting
over the surface.
I took several photos of it, with my 35mm single lens reflex at prime focus,
but they are no where near what we saw with our eyes that night.
Robert remarked,that he had never seen Mars so clearly as that one night. And
to this day I have not seen another night like it.
Robert was a genius, and knew his stars, and on his own time spent over 20
years putting together his handbook.
I bought one of his hand bound Celestial Handbooks from him in 1972, It came
in sections, as he then did not have a publisher. I have the first very thick
ring bound installment, but not the rest.
His meteorite collection I remember fondly. I went over to his abode many times
to see it and his big collection of ancient artifacts from Egypt, and some
items from the Abe Lincoln era. (If I recall he even had some notes that were
attributed to that President). But it was the meteorites that really
interested me, all obtained from our mutual friend Harvey Nininger. Meteor
Crater irons, stones from Kansas, falls and finds.
And during that time we both were in contact with Nininger and Huss, often
sharing items in our collections and buying from them at the time. And the
prices then were but pennies per gram, and I remember the days when the
packages would arrive at Lowell, and we would open them at get our specimens
from the Nininger-Huss lab (American Meteorite Laboratory) up in Denver. Harvey
Nininger was living up in Denver wit Glenn and Margaret Huss at the time.
I bought several specimens from Robert Burnham's collection that he got from
Nininger's original lab in Sedona (American Meteorite Museum), which closed in
1961. I will have to look through my collection I bought a pieces of Rolla,
Gilgoin, Monahans (iron), Clover Springs, Covert, Pasamonte. All of these came
direct from Harvey Nininger. And when I spoke with Nininger years after I left
Lowell,he remembered Robert Burnham and the times when he would go down to
Sedona. Nininger specifically remembered the Pasamonte crusted 2.6 gram piece
I bought that I still have to this day, and that he sold it and another to him
as well.
That other piece of Pasamonte... I saw it, a beautiful 10.5 gram tear drop.
Absolutely beautiful complete specimen. Robert was thinking of selling it to
me and I wish I had bought it. It was maybe $2 per/gram if I recall correctly.
As I recall, Robert had some very nice specimens, all from Harvey Nininger, bought at the
Sedona's "American Meteorite Museum" that closed in 1961.
I recall Robert fondly, as a frined a long time ago. His work at Lowell was
tedious and took much concentration. And what happened to him when he was out
of work, his life-long work, bothers me. Not a good end for such a man with so
many talents.
And like so many have asked to this day; Where is the Burnham Meteorite
Collection?
I wish I knew. I have only a few pieces from it that he was as a friend
willing to part with.
Steve Schoner
www.petroslides.com
Message: 21
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:59:14 -0400
From: Michael Gilmer<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Is there any religion that invites....
(Burnham's Meteorites?)
To: Kevin Kichinka<[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
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Hi List,
One last thing about this Burnham article. If you go to the bottom of
the first page, there is a link to part two of the article. The photo
at the top of part two shows Burnham in his "lab", surrounded by his
eclectic collection. In the center is a white cabinet similar to a
medicine cabinet. This cabinet is filled with meteorite specimens.
You can clearly see them and their specimen cards. There also appears
to be more specimens laying on the top of the cabinet.
Does anyone know which meteorites these are? And does anyone know
where these meteorites are now. I would give my right arm for one of
these specimens with Burnham provenance. If anyone knows where I can
acquire one of these, please contact me off-list and let me know.
Such a specimen would have very special meaning for me.
Best regards,
MikeG
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