Well said Michael
Bryan Couch Wildomar Ca
Dare to fail
On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:35 AM, michael cottingham <[email protected]> wrote:
> You already have professional riff raffs that cause trouble ... does not
> seem to matter. The goal is to get the meteorites out of the field as soon as
> possible, get them to science, get them to collectors, get them preserved. I
> say publish all available information as soon as possible ... anything that
> can aid in the recovery of the meteorites now, instead of later.
>
> Michael Cottingham
> On Sep 7, 2012, at 10:30 AM, dorifry wrote:
>
>> Keeping it secret would weed out the unprofessional riff raffs that could
>> potentially cause problems for everybody.
>>
>> Phil Whitmer
>> Joshua Tree Earth & Space Musuem
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Fries"
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: "Meteorite List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:12 AM
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords
>>
>>
>>> Greetings all
>>>
>>> I've been talking with a few people about logging the Battle Mountain
>>> meteorites, and I'd like to start some discussion on the topic of find
>>> coordinates. This is NOT directed at any one person, but I would like to
>>> editorialize a bit. I'm getting a lot of push-back about printing find
>>> coordinates and I'd like to open the topic to general discussion.
>>>
>>> Historically, the locations of found meteorites have been a closely guarded
>>> secret. That made a lot of sense when meteorite hunting relied most heavily
>>> on eyewitness reports. A hunter could easily put in many, many miles of
>>> walking before coming across a meteorite. For finds that are made with
>>> weather radar, however, I don't think its the same situation. When I post
>>> radar analyses, it is like posting a treasure map that says, "Go Here". At
>>> that point everyone knows where the meteorites are, and it seems to me that
>>> the locations of individual stones aren't nearly as important as they were
>>> in the past. (Strewn fields without detailed radar data are another matter,
>>> of course.) Where those locations do matter are to A) the science behind
>>> describing the meteorite fall, and B) the value of the individual meteorite
>>> since a well-documented meteorite should be worth more than a random stone
>>> from a given fall.
>>>
>>> I am a scientist, and my first instinct is to collect, analyze, and -share-
>>> data. I understand where that is at odds with the level of secrecy needed
>>> in the past, but I think that that level of secrecy is no longer needed and
>>> actually works contrary to the value of meteorites, both monetary and
>>> scientific. On the Galactic Analytics website, I'm willing to go against my
>>> better instincts and hide find locations, at least until a scientific paper
>>> is released describing the fall. But to be honest, I think that's a little
>>> silly - I'll basically have a table showing meteorites with the find
>>> locations redacted, and then you can scroll down the page a bit and see a
>>> map showing where the meteorites are.
>>>
>>> So let me throw this out there as a general question - is it really
>>> important to hide the find locations?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Marc Fries
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