Hello Adam and all I beleive the NEW 1099-B may cover meteorites! Look at the Barter Exchange clause!
Jim On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> wrote: > If you find a 10.01 pound meteorite on federal land, do not take a picture of > it with your cell phone if you are a poacher. The GPS coordinates will be > imbedded in the image. The Onstar or other system in your car will also > track every one of your moves. This is how rental car agencies can tell if > you have taken one of their cars off-road. > > > The new bullion form for gold, platinum and silver is a 1099-B not a 1009-B > as I stated in my last email. Yes, this is a real tax increase and was hidden > in 2010 under the new health care reform. Talk to your accountant in order > to avoid fines and penalties. A worst case nightmare would be a 1099-M form > for meteorites. Just kidding although it may be another way for the hogs at > the feeding through to take another bite. > > Take Care, > > Adam > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <[email protected]> > To: Shawn Alan <[email protected]> > Cc: Meteorite Central <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:48 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New BLM Rules > > Hi List, > > The new rule is missing a chromosome. (to put it nicely) > > But, if they are going to let this madness stand, then at least they > should distinguish between a fresh fall and old finds. Perhaps an > exception can be made for the recovery of new falls? If a new fall > happens over BLM land, the manager for that area could be informed and > he/she could waive the rule for that event. > > Also, I agree with what some of the others here have already said. > All this will do is push meteorite hunting into the black market - > just like arrowheads and fossils. > > Authority : "Do you have paperwork for that arrowhead/fossil?" > > Finder : "No, it comes from an old collection back in the 1930's, it's > grandfathered in." (wink) > > Best regards, > > MikeG > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone > Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone > Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone > RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On 9/21/12, Shawn Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello Listers >> >> What is confusing for me is that its seem the new BLM rules make it >> impossible for scientist and institutions to hunt and collect "meteorites" >> in the name for science, I wonder why? You would think it would be just as >> easy for scientist as it is with the casual collector. As speaking of a >> casual collectors, how could one be 100% its a meteorite? At the end of the >> day, its a stone until otherwise prove or disprove by someone with >> expertise. >> >> Shawn Alan >> IMCA 1633 >> eBay Store >> http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html? >> >> >> >> >> [meteorite-list] New BLM Rules >> Jeff Grossman jngrossman >> at gmail.com >> Thu Sep 20 19:06:11 EDT 2012 >> * Previous message: [meteorite-list] New BLM Rules >> * Next message: [meteorite-list] Curiosity Update: Near >> Target Rock 'Matijevic' >> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject >> ] [ author ] >> ________________________________ >> >> All, >> >> For those of you who don't know, I contribute to >> this list as a private >> citizen, but I work at NASA headquarters, with duties >> that extend to >> oversight of curation and research programs. I will be >> reading all >> posts on the list pertaining to this issue. >> >> Jeff >> >> On 9/20/2012 6:37 PM, Jim Wooddell wrote: >> >>>I have been in >> communications with the BLM on and off all day. Art, >> >>>thank >> for the HTML reminder as I have been trying to post all day and >> >>>thought I had this set correctly! >> >>> >> >>>Here is the first response: >> >>> >> >>>Dear Mr. Wooddell: The application fee is dependent on the >> time it >> >>>takes for BLM to process the project proposal in the >> application. This >> >>>would be determined by the field office >> manager after the application >> >>>is submitted and reviewed. >> These fees would be estimated for you prior >> >>>to the >> processing of the application, and would include monitoring >> >>>fees as well. The permit application/ permit is 2920-1 attached; fees >> >>>would be on page 2 when a permit is issued. Some examples of >> what the >> >>>fees would be can be found on the following web >> site and one example >> >>>is attached. http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/more/lands.html You >> >>>mentioned a “nation-wide” permit in your email. BLM >> issues permits on >> >>>a local level, and at maximum could be on >> a state-wide level, for >> >>>lands that we administer in the >> Western States. Thank you,Lucia Kuizon >> >>>--- >> >>> >> >>>I am not going to post their second >> response but they are now aware of >> >>>some issues that may or >> may not change the wording. >> >>> >> >>>I feel it is >> imperative for NASA to reach out and support hunters on >> >>>this >> issue in regards to the need to hunt fresh falls immediately, >> >>>without delay of some permit process. While they are >> claiming media >> >>>sparked this, most of us knew it was coming, >> just did not know when or >> >>>how the wording would be. >> >>> >> >>>The current fee structure is twofold. 1. >> The application / permit. >> >>>2. The monitoring fee. Currently >> the fees will range from ~$100 to >> >>>~$1100 for commercial >> hunters....those seeking profit. This is based >> >>>on their >> current cost recovery methods. I have both the application >> >>>and the fee schedule as example based on the above response. If >> >>>anyone wants them shoot me a private email. >> >>> >> >>>The big issue for hunters is that this >> will be based on a regional >> >>>level where each district >> supervisor may or may not have special >> >>>conditions, etc. >> Bottom line is that it will be required to have >> >>>permits in >> different hunting areas and could greatly increase overhead >> >>>for professional hunters. If hunters have to wait for a permit >> >>>process during a meteor event that produces meteorites, I >> feel science >> >>>looses. >> >>> >> >>>Regards, >> >>> >> >>>Jim >> >>> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> * Previous message: [meteorite-list] New BLM Rules >> * Next message: [meteorite-list] Curiosity Update: Near >> Target Rock 'Matijevic' >> * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject >> ] [ author ] >> ________________________________ >> >> More >> information about the Meteorite-list mailing list >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Jim Wooddell [email protected] 928-247-2675 ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
