Dude,

Meg Whitman joined eBay in 1997, turned it into a Titan and left in 2007. You 
can't blame her for things that happened after she left.

Peace!
Yinan

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On Nov 2, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Michael Farmer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Adam, I don't know why you have been having problems for last four years 
> (they have been my best money making years). Perhaps eBay is your problem. I 
> have abandoned eBay for the most part, because of rising costs and declining 
> service and lack of protection for sellers. Sales on eBay collapsed three 
> years ago and I stopped wasting my time there. Once Meg Whitman took over and 
> decided that screwing the people who make you money (sellers) as hard as they 
> could was a the good business decision, I told them very impolitely exactly 
> what they could go do with themselves every time they called me begging me to 
> come back and start listing again,  You have to adapt to the new economy or 
> it will crush you. Perhaps flying more than hundred thousand miles a year on 
> meteorite hunts worldwide helps, if I relied on American falls and finds, I 
> would be bankrupt by now, and if I hunted like NASA and SETI, I would have 
> bankrupted a small state as well.
> 
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Nov 2, 2012, at 3:15 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Adam and List,
>> 
>> When I first started collecting and dealing meteorites, someone said
>> "If you want to make a million dollars selling meteorites, start with
>> two million dollars.".  I don't recall who said it, but the point was
>> clear - you won't get rich selling meteorites.  And they were
>> absolutely right.  Sure, a few people are probably doing well by
>> selling meteorites and the poorest of us might look at those people
>> and consider them "rich" - but they are "baby rich" (the term that the
>> super-wealthy use to describe the lesser millionaires underneath them
>> on the ladder).
>> 
>> I swore off eBay a long time ago as a seller.  The fees are ridiculous
>> and their buyer-centric policy enforcement is a major PITA.  I saw the
>> writing on the wall when they stopped letting sellers leave negative
>> feedback for buyers.  Frankly, I am quite surprised that some of you
>> other dealers still sell on eBay - but I am glad you do, because it is
>> indeed a buyer's market.
>> 
>> This is for Adam - you said you were already hassled for Gold Basin.
>> What does this mean?  Can you share your experience here on the List,
>> or in private off-list?  I have some Gold Basin in my inventory and if
>> I am going to be "hassled" over it, I rather just stop offering it
>> entirely.  I don't make enough money from Gold Basin for it to be
>> worth the trouble.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> MikeG
>> 
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>> 
>> On 11/2/12, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi MikeG and List Members
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I refuse to get into politics or accounting too deeply here on the List
>>> unless it concerns meteorites in some way. My point is that the last four
>>> years have been the worst I have ever experienced from a financial
>>> standpoint and the low profits from meteorite sales are nearly wiped out due
>>> to heavy taxes and eBay/PayPal fees.
>>> 
>>> Most of my friends have lost their homes and the cost of everything else has
>>> nearly doubled due to the price of gas and huge tax increases on the middle
>>> class.  Last year was the first time I had to 1099 friends for mere few
>>> hundred dollars because they were trying earn a few bucks to hang onto their
>>> homes which they lost anyway.  Collectable sales are way down from four
>>> years ago because they are not an absolute necessity.
>>> 
>>> The good news is that there are a lot less people smoking cigarettes because
>>> they cannot afford them any more.  Three of my friends quit a few years
>>> ago.  Hurray for them!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On this point, I will not be restocking U.S. meteorite finds because there
>>> is absolutely no margin left and the U.S. government is watching eBay for
>>> them.  I have already been hassled over Gold Basin.   Once they are gone,
>>> somebody else can risk supplying the market with them.  It seems the U.S.
>>> market is going underground as predicted anyway due to mass hype in the
>>> media and unnecessary new governmental restrictions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Happy Collecting, it is definitely a buyers market,
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <[email protected]>
>>> To: Adam Hupe <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Adam <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 2:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA SETI Misappropriation of Tax Payer Funds
>>> 
>>> Hi Adam and List,
>>> 
>>> It's always the poor and middle class that get hit the hardest.  The
>>> super-rich have excellent accountants and financial advisors, and they
>>> take advantage of loopholes and grey areas that the average person is
>>> not aware of.
>>> 
>>> Adam, are you taking full advantage of your allowed deductions?  For
>>> example, if you have an area in your home that dedicated to your
>>> business, you can deduct tax burden based on the square footage of the
>>> home office.  They actually assign a dollar value to each square foot
>>> of your office, so take advantage of that.
>>> 
>>> The computer you are reading this on - deductible as a business
>>> expense.  Also, if you computer is used for internet-based commerce,
>>> you can also deduct a portion of your internet provider fees.
>>> 
>>> You can also shelter some of your profits by putting it into a trust
>>> for a grandchild or relative.
>>> 
>>> Going to Walmart to buy packing materials?  Not only can you write off
>>> the materials you buy, you can write off the gas you spent to drive
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> Do you conduct business with dealers or collectors via telephone?  If
>>> so, you can write off the phone bill as a business expense.
>>> 
>>> If you don't already have one, get yourself a really good accountant
>>> who knows all of the loopholes and will help you take advantage of
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> Or, as a last resort measure, do what the ultra-wealthy do : transfer
>>> some of your cash to an offshore or foreign bank.  Or, stick a giant
>>> wad of cash into a safety deposit box and let it sit there - it won't
>>> gather interest, but it will be invisible for tax purposes.
>>> 
>>> People talk about how high the tax rates are for businesses and
>>> corporations, but very few of the big companies pay anything close to
>>> the tax rate.  The General Electric company recently got a REFUND and
>>> the last couple of years, their tax burden has been well under 10%.
>>> Try finding a company that pays the full tax rate - it's difficult to
>>> do, although many mom and pop small businesses have to pay.  But
>>> generally speaking, the bigger the company, the bigger the money
>>> involved, the more they manipulate their finances to dodge their tax
>>> burden.  Go down the list of Fortune 500 companies, and I would wager
>>> that only a small handful of them pay more than a 20% rate.  Some of
>>> them pay nothing or next to nothing.
>>> 
>>> The little guys have to pay so much, in part, because the big guys
>>> aren't paying their share -
>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505144_162-36945095/top-25-corporate-tax-dodgers/
>>> 
>>> Read that linked article and you'll see what I mean.
>>> 
>>> Back to meteorites - yes, the blimp/airship/whatever is a total waste
>>> of money.  What is next?  Are we going to bring Gary Powers back from
>>> the dead and have him fly a U2 over strewnfields?  It's downright
>>> silly.  Sure, you might be able to see a large impact crater from an
>>> airship, but it would have to be really BIG and such a feature could
>>> be easily spotted on the ground.  I'll change my name to Nancyboy
>>> Fancypants if a single meteorite is found by using a blimp.
>>> 
>>> I am generally very supportive of NASA and SETI.  But this blimp
>>> nonsense seems like an attempt to garner media attention and not a
>>> method to find meteorites.
>>> 
>>> Best regards and happy huntings,
>>> 
>>> MikeG
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 11/2/12, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Yes, our tax burden is at record levels. 28% collectable capitol gains
>>>> plus
>>>> 
>>>> 15% FICA plus multiple fees(taxes) attached to nearly everything
>>>> including
>>>> the water we drink; What an outrage!  Remember this when you bid on
>>>> meteorites on
>>>> eBay. Since they are collectables like gold, silver and platinum, the
>>>> seller is being taxed at the highest possible capital gains tax rate
>>>> which is expected to go up depending on who is elected.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Who says the middle class isn't being squeezed harder than ever before?
>>>> To
>>>> see our hard earned money wasted on frivolous pursuits like blimp rides
>>>> under the name of science beyond ridiculous.
>>>> 
>>>> Some of my thoughts as unlisted private home and cell phones are ringing
>>>> off
>>>> the hook incessantly with political robocalls trying to get my vote.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Adam
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Greg Hupé <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 1:10 PM
>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA SETI Misappropriation of Tax Payer Funds
>>>> 
>>>> To All Concerned US Tax Payers...
>>>> 
>>>> I have been troubled by what is a clear misappropriation of US tax payer
>>>> funds by NASA/SETI. At a time of this country's financial crisis, this is
>>>> no
>>>> time to squander our tax dollars!!
>>>> 
>>>> We have all seen and read about 'The Blimp" that was, as stated in the
>>>> article link below, "... a NASA-hired airship." Not only are they using a
>>>> privately owned "Blimp" for frivolous and far-fetched 'research', but
>>>> they
>>>> are also giving free joy rides to private citizens as stated from the
>>>> article, "Glenn Rivera [a private citizen] was invited by astronomers
>>>> [NASA/SETI] to hunt for more meteorite crash-landing sites from a
>>>> NASA-hired
>>>> airship."
>>>> 
>>>> In recent conversations, I and many of my colleagues and some NASA
>>>> scientists (who wish to remain anonymous), have all concluded that
>>>> finding
>>>> meteorites [of any size] is completely impossible and a waste of tax
>>>> payer
>>>> dollars! How can one think you can spot a black rock the size of a dime,
>>>> a
>>>> golf ball or even a basketball from an altitude of 1000 feet?
>>>> 
>>>> The only entity that benefits from these dream hunts is the private
>>>> company
>>>> who owns "The Blimp". They get paid by NASA for use of "The Blimp" and
>>>> they
>>>> also benefit from all of the free advertising with their logos and web
>>>> addresses emblazoned on the sides of "The Blimp"!
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I am concerned, hunting for meteorites floating in the sky is
>>>> full
>>>> of hot air!
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the link the the article I reference:
>>>> http://novato.patch.com/articles/hunt-goes-on-for-more-meteorites#photo-12000260
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Greg
>>>> 
>>>> ====================
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>>>> The Hupé Collection
>>>> [email protected]
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