To answer Bill and Mike, That smaller slice looks good for Ash Creek to me, and the larger (supposed Mifflin) looks about right to me as well. Yes, they're similar, but...a little different.
The original Lonestar Meteorites fellow was somewhat obscure, definitely on the up-and-up. But, John Bryan Scarborough switched his ebay handle to a similar name some months ago. Documented misrepresented material has included Deport, Ash Creek, Mifflin, and Oum Dreyga. Off-looking specimens that were never analytically verified have included several others. Even experienced, well-regarded dealers make mistakes from time to time, but at some point it's just a bit much... Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Michael Farmer <[email protected]> wrote: > The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me. > I also think it is more likely Ash Creek. > Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer? > Michael Farmer > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, >> Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: >> >> (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 >> >> (?) >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f26041cb4&nma=true&si=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 >> >> It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we >> know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as >> Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another >> list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would >> be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. >> >> Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion >> of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the >> unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since >> Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a >> line-up of photos. >> >> Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this >> slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his >> source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, >> invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is >> cheap - if it's real. >> >> Jason >> >> >> >> www.fallsandfinds.com >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Bill, >>> >>> To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something >>> else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? >>> >>> Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. >>> >>> >>> Mendy Ouzillou >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: bill kies <[email protected]> >>>> To: Jason Utas <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: "[email protected]" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay >>>> >>>> Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what >>>> other material do you think it could be? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 >>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> CC: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Hello Bill, Brandon, All, >>>>> Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a >>>>> very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks >>>>> better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was >>>>> going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo >>>>> Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing >>>>> things up. >>>>> Wouldn't touch it, myself. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Jason >>>>> >>>>> www.fallsandfinds.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g >>>> slice of "Mifflin" currently for sale on eBay. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://tiny.cc/tugmyw >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Brandon D. >>>>>>> IMCA# 9312 >>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
