Yes let's end this thread on a high note; Great post Sonny! Regards, Art
On Jul 5, 2013, at 9:39 AM, "wahlpe...@aol.com" <wahlpe...@aol.com> wrote: > Hi List, > > I had to dig a little deeper to investigate Adam's experience on the > hillside. I have a friend who works at Screech AFB. I contacted him to go > through the flight data recorders on the F 16's in Nevada. Here is what he > came up with out of Thunderjet 1. A lot of it is pretty garbled but here is > what he was able to interpret. > > Vegas BLM office to Thunderjet 1. Thunderjet 1 to Vegas BLM office go ahead. > Thunderjet 1 we have reports of radio traffic in Sector 1. It is possibly the > meteorite men or that pesky meteorite hunter with his dog. We want you to > deviate from your current mission and go investigate. A few seconds later. > Thunderjet 1 to Vegas BLM office- > Vegas BLM to Thunderjet 1 go ahead. Thunderjet 1- I have the vehicles in > sight. It appears they are armed with magnet sticks. Do you want me to > engage? Thunderjet 1 that is negative. We want you to fly around > inconspicuously and monitor them. Roger 10-4 Thunderjet 1 monitoring. A few > seconds later. Vegas BLM office Thunderjet 1-It appears one of the people on > hillside are waving or making an obscene gesture. Do you wish for me to > engage? Vegas office to Thunderjet 1-that is negative. We want you to return > to base. We have bigger chickens to fry. Copy- Thunderjet 1 over and out. > > All kidding aside, the Air Force jets have been buzzing people in rural areas > in Nevada for as long as I can remember. We have relatives in Central and > Northern Nevada who have experienced the jets flying so low over their > ranches that it shook their homes. We have witnessed C 130's landing on dry > lake beds (imagine the dust clouds) and military planes flying at all hours. > It is not uncommon to see the jets flying in remote areas doing dog fights, > sending out flares, etc. I think this is something that us folks that have > been in Nevada for several generations have gotten used to. > > Sonny > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> > To: Adam <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Fri, Jul 5, 2013 12:21 am > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix > > > > > We were at least 40 miles away from the nearest military installation that I > know of. Maybe I misinterpreted the jet flyby but it looked deliberate to me. > Possibly the pilot turned his head to watch the mountain side as he blasted by > us. In any case, it startled our group while climbing a steep incline and > somebody could have easily lost their footing and been injured so I don't see > the humor in it. We did not see or hear a jet all day and to have one buzz > our > exact location seems more than a coincidence to me. The surrounding rock was > hotter than our body heat so I am sure thermal imaging is not what gave our > location away. > > > It is all fun and games until all of your rights have been trampled on or > vanished completely. If you think it is alright to have a government spy on > its > citizenship then you need to go back to school and learn history. Our > founding > fathers would be extremely upset by this who gives a crap attitude. People > seem > to forget that the government is here to serve us and not the other way > around. > > > We are loosing rights every day. In the last 15 years I have seen over half > the > searchable land off limits or seriously restricted to meteorite hunting. > Pretty > soon, only private property will be available and that too will soon be off > limits judging from the way a few meteorite hunters have treated landowners. > Just go to Kansas and ask how many farmers are willing to work with meteorite > hunters? > > > If you don't see the problem, then you are part of it, > > > Adam > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com> > To: James Beauchamp <falco...@sbcglobal.net> > Cc: Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>; Thunder Stone > <stanleygr...@hotmail.com>; > Adam <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix > > > Are you sure? Obama has the BLM on his desktop speed dial waiting for that > chance to order missiles free on meteorite hunters. He is tapped in by NSA > computers to your wristwatches. You are only safe if you use an 1890s or > before > pocket watch. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:45 PM, James Beauchamp <falco...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> LOL, seriously, if the pilot saw you guys and did a maneuver, it was > out of > showing off and fun. Far from any malice. >> >> As a former aircrew guy, and recently retired from a 23 year air > force career, > I promise you they could care less about rock collectors. There isn't enough > training time - especially in the last five years - to go around. They are > extremely busy trying to check the boxes - either test cards or the weapon > school / Red Flag scenario at hand. They are concentrating on the mission, > the > aircraft systems, and things in the air that [if not watched carefully] can > kill > them. That list includes other airplanes, drones, birds, things falling off > the > airplane, engines a few degrees from alloy melting points, and ridgelines that > like to smack pilots that don't pay attention. >> >> They have to do all this, and accomplish an over-loaded task list > with just > enough in the tanks to land with a couple of thousand pounds of reserve fuel. >> >> Like an over-tasked soccer mom with 1000 kids in the back of the > mini-van, > they are concentrating on much more serious things than people waling around > on > the desert floor :) >> >> >> >> --- On Thu, 7/4/13, Thunder Stone <stanleygr...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> From: Thunder Stone <stanleygr...@hotmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix >>> To: "James Beauchamp" <falco...@sbcglobal.net>, "Adam Hupe" > <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> >>> Cc: "Adam" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> >>> Date: Thursday, July 4, 2013, 10:08 PM >>> I've had jets fly low while meteorite >>> hunting and thought it was really cool... never thought >>> anything negative about it at all. >>> GregS >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From: James Beauchamp >>> Sent: 5 Jul 2013 02:27:13 GMT >>> To: Adam Hupe >>> Cc: Adam >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ED fix >>> >>> The pilot of the F-18 really wasn't concerned about you, the >>> little specks on the ground. Worse case, he was doing >>> his (or her) normal training route, saw some people and >>> decided to give you a small air show out of fun. You >>> got a cool treat from an aviator, not a scare tactic. >>> They have enough on their plate monitoring the aircraft >>> systems and staying on schedule. Posse commitatus is >>> still strongly enforced. >>> >>> A lot of you are freaking out over non-existent >>> boogeymen. What you should be asking >>> yourselves is what really led to the BLM policy. As a >>> lurker on this list for a couple of years, I've noticed a >>> few of you, through your arrogance and willingness to >>> disregard existing laws and regulations, probably >>> contributed directly to the change. Those of us trying >>> to take the high road have to suffer. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 4, 2013, at 19:21, Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> One more thing of interest. >>>> >>>> Our group consisting of my wife, Zann von Hupe, Dr. Ted >>> Bumch and myself were literately in the middle of nowhere >>> here in Nevada on a mountain side and were buzzed by an F-18 >>> jet. The pilot turned the jet sideways, matched our >>> altitude and hit his afterburners just to let us know that >>> he knew we were there. He flew so close to us that we >>> could see his helmet and face-shield as he turned his head >>> to get a better look at us. >>>> >>>> My question is; what device gave up our position? >>>> >>>> No, we were not doing anything wrong and Dr. bunch was >>> extremely angry about being buzzed so close because it >>> startled all us and we could have lost our footing on the >>> steep slopes. >>>> >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
