Dennis, My experience is the same as yours . In fact because I still regularly search the Santa Rotas for the "Tucson Irons" I wondered what would happen if I ever found it. So, I went to Game and Fish in the Federal building in Tucson and was told exactly what you posted. And a paid permit would be required for larger landscape material at a sub-station near the hunt site but, as you said. You are welcome to hunt but, Nothing found can be sold. They do make that very clear. I did find a prospect far south of there and I think it was on private property or state land?
Best Regards, Carl -- Love & Life ---- Dennis Miller via Meteorite-list <[email protected]> wrote: > I guess no one read my note. Bob and Adam still say "No Hunting!" That's > where > I need help. New Mexico's National Forest supervisor said that one can hunt, > as > long as it isn't for sale. Just leave the 50 year old or older crap alone. > If there is a > clearer description of do's and don'ts in a document, please post it for all > to see. > Dennis > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Dennis Miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Date: June 3, 2016 at 9:50:58 PM MDT > To: > "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Fwd: Questions about the SF National Forest > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dennis miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 9:15 PM > To: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Fw: Questions about the SF National Forest > > > > Hi, Folks! This land use gets so discombobulated that no one knows what is > or isn't > > permissible in National forests. As for the collectors, little guys that > don't do this for > > a living, simple apply what is on the books. This is a copy of a letter that > I received from > > the State Office in Santa Fe. It was pretty clear what I could and couldn't > do. I carried a > > copy of this in my pocket. I also carry a copy of Title 43 Part 8360 Subpart > 8365, "Rules > > of Conduct" for Federal land, to show the unknowing ranger what I can and > can't do. > > They generally walk away saying "Have a Great day". If I'm missing > something, I would > > like better information than I have. Oh, the letter was from USGA state > supervisor. > > Thanks! Dennis > > P.S. Sally Jewell, the new Secretary of Interior, from Denver, is a > > outdoorsy, rock collecting, geologist. I'm hoping she will keep our > > lands open for our "Hobby". Her e-mail is: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > ________________________________ > Subject: Fwd: Questions about the SF National Forest > > > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Szopinski, Joshua - FS" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Date: April 21, 2016 at 8:16:22 AM MDT > To: Dennis miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: RE: Questions about the SF National Forest > > Hello, > > Currently, there are no entrance restrictions on the Santa Fe National > Forest. There are some roads that are closed but I don’t recall any near > Glorieta. > From the Santa Fe National Forest website: Metal Detecting is allowed > throughout the forest except in significant archaeological or historical > sites. It is the responsibility of the person using the metal detector to > not remove any item protected by law. Please read question and answers > <http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5363641.doc> before > embarking on a detecting mission. > No permit or notification is required for collecting if the following applies: > • Collecting of samples is on the surface (no digging with hand tools > or mechanized equipment). A small sluice may be used. > • Collection is for personal use and esthetic values (cannot be sold > or bartered). > For the following activities, please contact the Santa Fe National Forest to > discuss permitting or authorization: > • Activity that does involve digging with hand tools or mechanized > earth-moving equipment, including bobcats, suction dredges, ‘high banking’ or > dry washing equipment. > • Commercial activities including collecting mineral or fossil > specimens for re-sale. > • Removal of more than insignificant amounts of landscape rock. > The following items may not be collected or removed by casual collectors: > • Vertebrate fossils (dinosaurs bones, fish, - anything with a > backbone), and shark teeth. > • Archeological resources > <http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5363656.doc> including > any material remains of prehistoric or historic human life or activities, > which are at least 50 years old, and includes the physical site, location, or > context in which they are found including items such as old coins, metal > implements, or utensils. (36 CFR 261.2) > The collection of projectile points, pottery, or any other archeological > resource or artifact is not allowed (36 CFR 261.9 (h) without a permit. > Projectile points include ‘arrowheads’ and any prehistoric human-modified > stone. > > > Some forest roads do travel through private land and the owner of the land > can lock the gate on the road at anytime. Going onto private property will > need authorization from the land owner before you enter their land. > > Hope that helped. > > > [Forest Service Shield] > > Joshua Szopinski > Customer Service Representative > > Forest Service > Santa Fe National Forest, Supervisor's Office > > p: 505-438-5300 > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > 11 Forest Lane > Santa Fe, NM 87508 > www.fs.fed.us<http://www.fs.fed.us/> > [USDA Logo]<http://usda.gov/>[Forest Service > Twitter]<https://twitter.com/forestservice>[USDA > Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/pages/US-Forest-Service/1431984283714112> > > Caring for the land and serving people > > > > > > > > This electronic message contains information generated by the USDA solely for > the intended recipients. Any unauthorized interception of this message or the > use or disclosure of the information it contains may violate the law and > subject the violator to civil or criminal penalties. 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