The way you come out in full-on attack mode simply proves to me that your
meteorite is a scam and not just an innocent inquiry.
As Paul said, we have seen this before. I've had people steal meteorites
from another dealer and offer them to me as "new finds" minutes after I
had
already seen them and tried to buy them. I've had people try to sell me
meteorites by email when the meteorite was sitting on my desk in front of
me.
The scams never end.
We are professionals. Seeing the photo of that Campo is as easy as seeing
a photo of the Mona Lisa. No need for further testing.
Michael Farmer
On Jul 2, 2016, at 11:33 PM, John Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:
What an interesting few responses. You all certainly know a gazillion
times more about meteorites and about meteorite scams than I know. Of
these things I know almost nothing, though I do certainly appreciate that
many parts (if not all) of the internet are rife with scams. I'm sorry
that you have so much anger about it.
But I can't help but wonder why, if it is so obvious that I'm perpetrating
a scam, would the staff at PSU's Cascade Meteorite Lab, (who have had this
meteorite in hand), not voiced this concern? They actually examined the
rock in person - not just by way of a low res digital photo. Why would
they have been certain enough to have promised to move the classification
of this meteorite to the very top of their already long queue? They may
be
underfunded, but they sure didn't strike me as dumb. I can't help but
presume they can ID a Campo as readily as you. Do you think they are
ignorant? I guess you can presume that I'm also being deceptive about my
contact with them.
I really don't know the answer to that riddle. It is only on the basis of
their authority that I can even claim to know that this is a real
meteorite. I will call them again on Tuesday to ask their thoughts on
this
matter of a Campo scams. They don't seem to mind at all for me to "waste
their time".
I've never had any connection with law enforcement, although I have no
idea what you think that might imply. (Are law enforcement people often
untrustworthy?) I've always been obscure, and I will always probably BE
obscure. I'm just one of the obscure masses. So there is no "drifting
back" into obscurity needed. But I also sure don't need validation from
your group..
I don't think you can find any link to me by Google search my name. But
since you apparently were curious, you can see my short and non-special
biography by going to QRZ.com <http://qrz.com> and searching the call
sign K7KEY. I'm obscure, but I also have nothing to hide.
But my post here has not been fruitless. I've received a good number of
very considerate direct replies from others offering useful advice and
information.
My regret now is that it appears that it would have been MUCH better to
have asked about cutting an iron meteorite in the abstract. I was foolish
not to think of this, and I now realize that the excitement of my
discovery
clouded my judgement.
Happy Independence Day to all in the U.S.!
On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Paul Gessler <[email protected]> wrote:
Mr Pierce,
He is being "amazingly rude" because you think we are amazingly naive.
We are not. We have seen this CRAP before many many times and it just
doesn’t fly.
I asked to see a photo of your meteorite precisely because I was a bit
suspicious.
Upon reviewing the photos it is VERY CLEAR that it is another Campo del
Cielo.
So instead of wasting PSU;’s time I will give you the classification
right now.
What you have is :
classification Octahedrite Group IAB Composition 92.9% Fe, 6.7% Ni,
0.4% Co
So you see.... you don’t even have to worry about cutting your precious
hoax.
Simply dissolve back into obscurity where you belong.
No one here cares about your story.
PS,
I googled your name and...you wouldn’t happen to be a former Law
enforcement officer would you?
just curious
-Paul Gessler
From: John Pierce
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 4:46 PM
To: Michael Farmer
Cc: Paul Gessler ; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron
Wow, Michael Farmer, you are amazingly rude.
Is your rudeness typical of this meteorite community, or are you just a
troll, or just an angry person?
I don't know what a "pen Oregon" iron meteorite is". Can you explain?
Because I am new to this stuff.
You are the only person so far who has claimed to be able to classify
this meteorite from only a photo.
But let me clarify again, the intention is to only the smallest possible
window cut to generate a sample big enough for classification.
You are also the first person to advise that classifying the meteorite
will take it to very low value. Is this consistent advise from the
community here?
I have no intention of cutting it beyond that.
On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Michael Farmer <[email protected]>
wrote:
Nice 100% campo del Cielo meteorite from Argentina.
110% scam.
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:40 AM, John Pierce via Meteorite-list <
[email protected]> wrote:
OK, photos.
I'm not the most computer literate person.
I had go create a Photobucket album, and I hope this link works:
http://s744.photobucket.com/user/Lumin9/library/Halo
Please, no need to flame me for cleaning the rock.
I read and considered a lot before proceeding.
Simply my preference with no concern regarding market value.
Found by me personally on our 32-acre property in Southern Oregon.
John Pierce
On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Paul Gessler <[email protected]> wrote:
Let’s see a picture of this Iron.
-Paul G
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From: John Pierce via Meteorite-list
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 6:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron
Hello All,
This is my first post here. I joined recently because I found a lovely
nickel-iron meteorite, and that has spurred my further interest in this
subject. My meteorite has been confirmed as the real thing by staff of
the
Meteorite Lab at Portland State University, who would like to perform
classification. It is 11.2 kg, and according to PSU staff, it will be
only
the seventh classified meteorite ever found in the state of Oregon.
I’ve enjoyed reading these archives, but I haven’t yet been able to find
answer to my question.
I’m posting here to ask if anyone has any experience cutting an iron
meteorite with the CBN blade that is sold by Johnson Brothers Lapidary.
They advertise it as just the thing for cutting irons. I’m interested to
know anything about blade life, rim speed, feed rate, and using plain
water
as a coolant/lubricant. For cutting the analysis sample, I have
machining
experience and very suitable tools, except for the blade, which I would
like to be a circular blade.
I welcome replies here on the forum, or by private email.
Kind regards,
John
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