Hello Charlie and list, Steve started a post called "dealers refunds". I do not think the buyer in Steve's post deserves a refund! Some how, some where, the thread got off topic and on to the subject with Matteo and an ebay deal of his. When I replied on this subject, I thought we were still on Steve's original thread. So Charlie, I want you to know that I has not talking about you in this thread at all. I am sorry if I offended you, I thought if I was offending anyone it was the guy asking Steve for a refund! : ) Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlie Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Tom aka James Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ken O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Meteorite-List (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; M come Meteorite Meteorites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dealer Refunds: IDENTITY and DOUBLE GAUL
> Hello everyone, > > On ebay I am shawomet, and I am the person whom Matteo is suggesting be > blackballed on ebay because I left him negative feedback. > I am very sorry that Matteo chose to air our differences on this list. > When he continued to lie to me, I told Matteo he was very lucky I was > keeping this between the 2 of us. Now he has decided to slam me in > public, so, to set the record straight, here is why Matteo is so upset > with me. > > It begins with the simple fact that Park Forest was a very special fall > in my opinion. My emphasis in collecting has always been more on the > history, and less on the science. So, Park Forest had it all in my > eyes. I knew I was reading about, on this list, a fall that would rank > as very historic. I resolved that I would try to acquire as many > samples of the various hammers or "house smashers" as I could. > It's 3 months later and I believe I did well in reaching my specific > goals. > > Then one day I saw this ebay auction just a few hours after Matteo > listed it: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2178091504 > > This listing gave the unmistakable impression that the seller was > offering a slice of the stone that hit the roof of the PF Firestation! > With a buy-now option of $55 for a 1g slice. I thought, "wow, what a > way to round out my PF hammer collection!". But I also thought "I > thought the PF town council had decided to sell this stone to a museum?" > I then did what I've never done before. Bid first ( or in this case > "buy-now" first ) and ask questions later. If this really were a piece > of the PF Firestation stone, the auction might end with a buy-now before > Matteo could answer my questions. So I ended the auction and > immediately wrote to Matteo. I told him I would send payment if he > could provide the evidence that this was indeed from the PF Firestation > hammer. His reply did not really address my question. He told me that > he got the slice from Michael Blood, who got it from the Hupes. He told > me he had a slice from this stone on his collection page. He did, and > it was captioned "Firestation stone". > > I decided to contact Michael Blood, but he was not around. I decided to > sleep on it. Lo and behold, when I awake I remember that Michael did > offer pieces of a stone that had fallen across the street from the > firestation. Matteo was mistaken. It must be a piece of this stone > that I had purchased. So I wrote to Matteo and told him he must be in > error, but being an honorable man, I would pay his ebay fees since I had > bid first and asked questions later. A small loss for me, no loss for > Matteo. > > Matteo's reply to my suggestion was that I could believe one of 2 > things. I could believe that Michael Blood was a liar, or I could > believe the slice came from the stone that penetrated the roof of the > firestation. Whatever Matteo's reason for putting it that way, I "fell > for it" and sent my payment. A perfect example of being told what I > really wanted to hear and believing it I guess. > > Several days went bye when I noticed a post from Michael to the list. > Seeing that he was around I contacted him and discovered my memory had > been correct. Michael never offered this hammer on his pre-post list > and Michael never told Matteo that the pieces Matteo bought from him > came from the Firestation impactor. Michael also fwd me a copy of his > old PF pre-post. I fwd this pre-post to Matteo and presented it as > evidence that the specimen I purchased, and which was now enroute to me, > was not what Matteo claimed it was. Matteo's reply was that perhaps the > description "fell across the steet" from the firestation had been lost > in his emails with Michael. Matteo did not offer, as I expected he > would, and as I would have immediately done myself, a refund or other > form of adjustment that would make up for his misrepresentation of this > auction listing. > > When the item arrived, I left negative feedback. > That feedback simply stated the truth of the matter. I did not demand a > refund that I felt the seller should have offered me of his own free > will. I wrote it off as a gamble on my part, a gamble I had lost. > > After I had posted the feedback, Matteo contacted me and reminded me > that he had told me if I did not believe the piece was from the stone > that hit the firestation, I did not have to send payment. He has > repeated this claim on this list. Matteo, as I told you yesterday, I do > not like being lied to. I told you that I have saved all your emails. > And I state catagorically: > at no time did you tell me not to send payment. > Rather, you told me that if it were not from the stone that hit the > station, then Blood was a liar. > Since I don't believe that Michael is a liar, and it didn't dawn on me > that you might be misleading me, you got paid and I own a pretty > expensive slice of "ordinary" PF. > > In closing, I want to state, that I left Matteo negative feedback > because I felt I was lied to. > While the feedback was strongly worded, I'm not all bent out of shape > about what happened. > I accept responsibility for my "bid now, ask questions later" approach. > If Matteo had simply agreed to my offer to pay his ebay fees for the > item I purchased, there would be no negative feedback and I would'nt be > offering a long-winded expaination of a matter that Matteo should have > kept between the 2 of us. Again, I am sorry that this business is being > aired in public. I do hope this is the last word that anyone expects > from me on this matter. > > Best wishes, > Charlie > > ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
