Mendy, thanks for your advice. I'll consider what options I have as the next step.
Sorry to bother all on the mailing list, on this particular matter, I will stop copying the whole list in from now. Best, David Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Sep 2017, at 16:19, Gmail <[email protected]> wrote: > > David, > > Museums are not likely to want to test meteorites for authenticity for many > reasons. First and foremost, doing so takes time away from research and > classification of new material. Secondly, differentiating between two > meteorites of the same classification is difficult if not impossible in some > cases. If you just want to know if it is a meteorite and not terrestrial, > there are people/companies that will perform that kind of work. > > Buying from trusted dealers is really important because sometimes that > bargain may end up costing you much more than you may realize. > > Mendy Ouzillou > > On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:13 AM, David Tann via Meteorite-list > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Mike, I'd go even further in saying sadly 99% of the "meteorites" > circulating freely in and from China are terrestrial rocks! The real Nantan > meteorites in private collection are extremely rare, a total of around 40 kg. > There is also a rarer type of meteorites intertwined with and inserted into > earth rocks indicating high impact crushing/explosion. I'm happy to be proven > wrong but as I said I have reasonable cause to believe my source to be > reliable and genuine, although it's going to take me sometime to completely > verify and document both types. I would naturally like to have the samples > tested. I was hoping you guys would be able to test and analyse the > composition of the samples for me, but I'll probably approach the Natural > History Museum. > > Best, > > David > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 6 Sep 2017, at 20:47, Michael Farmer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> David. Sorry but I do mineral shows in china. Everyone has a nice stamped >> paper from one Chinese government source or another. Actually your piece >> certainly looks like Nantan meteorite. Sadly Nantan is nearly worthless. >> >> Michael Farmer >> >>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:55 AM, David Tann <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, Mike & Adam, for your valuable comments which I fully understand >>> and much appreciate. Fake meteorites and scandalous traders were indeed >>> acknowledged as a big problem in China, much like elsewhere. >>> >>> I do however have reasonable confidence in the authenticity of the >>> meteorites as they were from no ordinary tom dick and harry but a trusted >>> and reliable source with high level connections in China; and they had been >>> assessed by professionals and academic experts from the Chinese Academy of >>> Sciences as genuine. >>> >>> However, I'd like to have these and a great deal more independently tested >>> and verified in the UK. Could you advise on how to go about that please? >>> >>> Thank you in advance, your help is much appreciated. >>> >>> David >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 6 Sep 2017, at 16:52, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> People are suckers and if they want to buy crap then let them. In china >>>> most people want cheap. Well real good meteorites aren't cheap. So they >>>> buy fakes and are happy with low prices. >>>> Michael Farmer >>>> >>>>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It reminds me of the China Syndrome when hundreds of terrestrial stones >>>>> were sold to collectors as meteorites on eBay. Anything that was dark >>>>> and rounded including iron ore was sold to unsuspecting collectors as >>>>> meteorites fleecing them out of thousands of dollars. Some of them even >>>>> included old looking collection ID cards. >>>>> >>>>> Link to China Syndrome: >>>>> http://imca.cc/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=114 >>>>> >>>>> It was just a matter of time before fraud spread into all sectors of >>>>> meteorite collecting. First it affected irons, then Pallasites, then >>>>> falls, then Martians and now Lunar material. The worst part is some >>>>> dealers are using the IMCA's good name to distribute untested, unproven >>>>> and in some cases fake material completely bypassing protections put in >>>>> place by following Meteoritical Society protocols which IMCA members are >>>>> supposed to adhere to. >>>>> >>>>> Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/6/2017 7:03 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: >>>>>> That's worth about $50 >>>>>> Michael Farmer >>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 1:36 AM, David Tann <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gents, >>>>>>> <image1.JPG> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This 2800g IAB Nantan Meteorite was discovered in 1958 in Nantan, >>>>>>> Guanxi, Southwest China. The fall was observed and clearly recorded in >>>>>>> Chinese historical literature, it happened on 7 June 1516 over an 8 km >>>>>>> length of area. Anyone interested please get in touch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David >>>>>>> 07771888566 >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5 Sep 2017, at 17:54, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree fully. Great time to buy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael Farmer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just like Martians were a few years ago when the self-pairing and >>>>>>>>> piggy-backing reached an all time high at around 2012/NWA 7000. And >>>>>>>>> before that, it was falls when some less than honest dealers were >>>>>>>>> substituting NWA material in place of the real thing. I remember >>>>>>>>> Claxton, which I acquired from Michael Blood later selling for less >>>>>>>>> than a $100.00 gram due to a lack in collector confidence. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No meteorite is immune from less than honest business practices. Many >>>>>>>>> collectors will not touch anything that post dates 2012 and are very >>>>>>>>> leery of falls. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On the bright side. There is no better time to purchase genuine lunar >>>>>>>>> material with good provenance and laboratory confirmation since the >>>>>>>>> price is sure to go up just like the Martians that were dumped a few >>>>>>>>> years ago. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2017 8:30 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> You are pissing in the wind. Lunars are about worthless now. >>>>>>>>>> Moroccans have dropped the price to less than that of eucrites. I >>>>>>>>>> want just in Morocco. I saw kilos and kilos is lunar. >>>>>>>>>> Michael Farmer >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and >>>>>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and >>>>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the >>>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the >>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > ______________________________________________ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
