This was Mike Farmers exact question which was forwarded to the List:
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"As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When
if the last time you’ve left your house?"
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If responding to this makes me look like a fool in your opinion, then so
be it. The same list members that respond to what I post are generally
dealers that have a financial stake in what is being discussed and don't
like to hear what I have to say.
I do not see any collectors being representing in these debates after
the initial post. A collector was simply asking advice on the stability
of this Pallasite which he experienced problems with.
It would be nice to get genuine collectors' opinions but most do not
care to post for the fear of being attacked if some dealer doesn't like
what they have say.
Adam
On 12/4/2017 8:49 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote:
No Adam,
I just gave some praise towards you, to someone. However,,,,,,,,,
I'm in no way Judge, Jury, Sheriff nor Deputy---- Again, however I
am someone that Realizes when someone/anyone begins to spout
their own tree stump Bull-shit Too often. Gets really old hand.
My question to you is why do you continue to do this -- why, why ??
You don't need to make yourself look like a fool.
I'm the best fool on any List -- you Now take my place !
With some respect, John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
I was just responding to Mikes post to the List about travel.
Denationalizing millions of acres is meteorite related since it opens
these lands back up to searching.
Are you the second list sheriff or just a deputy?
Adam
On 12/4/2017 8:28 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote:
Adam,
Now, I truly believe you have lost your focus..........
And you just want to listen to yourself......whatever you want to say.
Adam -- this is the Meteorite List ..--stay on Subject !
Subject: - Stabilility of Sericho (Habaswein).
What am I Missing ??????????
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
I travel all of the time. I just don't produce Brian Williams type
reports every time I return home. You should be happy to hear that
millions of acres (National Monuments) were restored (denationalized)
today to meteorite hunting and for actual public use in Utah. Nevada
and California are next. Perhaps I will explore these areas when they
become available again for public enjoyment
Adam
On 12/4/2017 7:56 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When if the
last time you’ve left your house?
Michael Farmer
On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even
in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend. Now that the show has
ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.
I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.
Adam
On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving
your sofa is required.
We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t recall you
ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
experience.
Michael Farmer
On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
Oops, Chevy
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford&LH_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0
Rob
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From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that
Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster. I received several reports today of
rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping noises
coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to serious
ruster.
Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other
than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade
polishing and low humidity storage/display.
I avoid rusters at all costs,
Adam
On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and
don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. :-D
If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who
actually has experience working with the meteorite in question.
Additionally,
Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range.
Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. That
distinction needs to be made.
Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295
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On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:
My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
clear-coat surface. It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
preparation. Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces
of
any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease." Not
only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
trapping moisture. It is important to store this material in low
humidity environments with plenty of air circulation. Also, exposure
to
direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.
A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are
several
metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen
was
around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.
Happy Collecting,
Adam
On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:
Hello Dear List Members,
Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability,
similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just
fortuity
or is it really so?
Thanks in advance for your answers,
Andrey,
IMCA#6240
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