Thanks Bob,
The BBC article was the only sane article in the bunch. Other UK sources were
as crazy as our cable news broadcasters.
Reporting was crazy as both CNN and Foxnews were such a jumbled mess that any
normal person could not follow since the videos accompanying the story top
center were old videos with a new story text below -- and one would never know,
and more likely think the videos wer ethe new story. CNN may have just followed
Foxnews (or Fox copied them) in that the energy CNN originally quoted for the
new event, incorrectly quoted the prior event energy, so CNN was flat wrong.
MSNBC appears to have gotten the story right, but sensationalized it so badly
that it appeared it was the Chelyabinsk explosion with their old video which,
like Foxnews, would easily be confused with the actual new event, complete with
people running and screaming. *SMH*
I was curious about Ron because he inadvertently started the ball rolling on
the Greenland converted Thule/nuclear war event, and last time I checked his
Twitter it was suspended, which seemed really odd, unless he got in trouble for
just having a personal account with his JPL credentials unexpectedly pulling
JPL into the mix of "experts" that were sources for the latest Chicken Little
story!
"A fireball was detected over Greenland on July 25, 2018 by US Government
sensors at an altitude of 43.3 km. The energy from the explosion is estimated
to be 2.1 kilotons. pic.twitter.com/EePuk14Pqd"
— Rocket Ron (@RonBaalke) July 31, 2018
So the media then ran with him as a spokesman of sorts from JPL's Solar
Dynamics Laboratory, after Hans Kristensen, is the Director of Nuclear
Information at the Federation of American Scientists replied to it setting the
stage for the feeding frenzy. For example, from
https://theoutline.com/post/5708/what-if-that-meteor-was-aliens?zd=1&zi=zocrn74m
"The news of the explosion appears to have originated from Ron Baalke of NASA’s
Jet Propulsion Laboratory (see the first of the two tweets above), and
eventually made its way to a scientist whose handle is @nukestrat (see the
second tweet), who pretty strongly implied that a meteor exploding near an Air
Force base almost plunged us into nuclear war. @nukestrat, aka Hans Kristensen,
is the Director of Nuclear Information at the Federation of American
Scientists, so it makes sense that he would offer nuke-related commentary about
whichever news story, pretty much whenever. But it seems as if his tweet began
a weird feedback loop in which news outlets kept wondering why the Air Force
didn’t acknowledge the explosion in the first place, giving the overall
impression that something super fishy was going on.
This is how conspiracy theories start in 2018, I guess — with commentary that
quickly spirals into context collapse."
Best Regards,
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Verish <[email protected]>
To: MexicoDoug <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>;
[email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Mar 19, 2019 11:35 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] greenland meteor strike
Hello Doug,
Just to be clear, I was replying in regards to Paul Gessler's post and his
title "greenland meteor strike", making it clear that the articles he
referenced were about the Bering Sea meteor in December and not about the
Greenland Meteor in July, (even though the Fox "News" used an old, meteor video
involving the military base near Greenland in July).
Contrary to the description accompanying that older FOX video, the US Air Force
were the first to notify NASA about the December fireball over the Bering Sea.
I just figured that Paul's post (and title) and the reference to BOTH the BBC
and Fox "News" articles (and their stark differences) were his Canadian-polite
way of rubbing our collective US noses in our own "do-do" that is now US
internet "journalism".
With best regards, Bob V. P.S. - I must admit that I have no knowledge of Ron
Baalke's status at JPL.
On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:00 PM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list
<[email protected]> wrote:
I saw the the same sensationalized story written up as a CNN report today:
"A meteor exploded in the Earth's atmosphere with 10 times the energy of the
Hiroshima atomic bomb",
and CNN's article has buildings shaking and glass breaking on the autoplay
video on top of the page (from Chelyabinsk).
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/18/us/meteor-blast-fireball-explosion-nasa-space-trnd/index.html
and they even screwed up the size of the explosion (since been revised in the
story, ironic since the title was about the energy that then needed
correction)!
MSNBC did a slightly longer sensational version, which was interesting for a
casual reader,
" Meteor blast over Russia's Bering Sea packed 10 times the power of Hiroshima
bomb"
https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/techandscience/meteor-blast-over-russia-s-bering-sea-packed-10-times-the-power-of-hiroshima-bomb/ar-BBUWcVc
To be fair, the BBC was a source of the report for all three of the cable
"news" networks, where the unifying thread is only US cable news "journalism"
which we all know is entertaining.
Wonder what the discussion groups in say India, thing about our news.
Also, wonder how "Rocket Man" Ron Baalke a former active list member at JPL,
who is missed, got suspended and if it was related to setting off the
sensational narrative on the Greenland defense base last year? Bob?
Cheers,
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Verish via Meteorite-list <[email protected]>
To: Paul Gessler <[email protected]>; Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list
<[email protected]>; meteorite-list
<[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Mar 18, 2019 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] greenland meteor strike
Regarding the Bering Sea meteor strike, the difference between the BBC
reporting, versus the Fox"News" story, is the difference between a factual
accounting, and another example of anxiety-inducing "fake news".
https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2019/Bob V.
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:07 AM, Paul Gessler via
Meteorite-list<[email protected]> wrote: Apparently a large
event has been detected in Greenland approximating the
energy of Chelyabinsk.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47607696
https://www.foxnews.com/science/us-detects-meteor-explosion-10-times-the-energy-as-atomic-bomb-report
paul gessler
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