You are right; it is hard to compare the statistics. Many or most of the described multi-fragment Saharan meteorites are those that decrepitated in place in the much harsher weathering environment of hot deserts compared with cold ones. Meteorites that formed strewn fields get just as many numbers in the Sahara as in Antarctica (one per specimen). I grant you that there are at least hundreds and maybe thousands of commercial stones that don't ever get classified, as I said in my last posting... can anybody estimate the actual number? You also have to remember that, according to reports, many Saharan meteorites are intentionally broken up prior to being described, which drives the statistics in the opposite direction.

I don't think total mass is a useful number because the statistics are dominated by a few outliers. You really have to go to pairing-corrected statistics. Lindstrom estimated that the average pairing group among antarctic specimens is ~5, which lowers the total number of separate Antarctic meteorites to about 4000. There are many pairings also among commercially collected meteorites, although I don't know if anybody has estimated the ratio in the same way as Lindstrom did. The average pairing group among separately collected meteorites has got to be at least 3, I would guess. So you take the 4000 or so commercial meteorites, and let's allow an equal number of unclassified/undescribed stones, making 8000. Divide by my conservative 3, and you still have >2x as many unique Antarctic meteorites as commercial ones. But let's face it... you can't get even close to statements that were made indicating that 95% of new meteorites are commercially collected ones.

As for rare meteorites, which I will define as non-ordinary-chondrites, there are 1550 from Antarctica and 467 from commercial collections. So the ratio of antarctic:commercial meteorites is 3:1 instead of the raw number of 3.5:1 among total meteorites, enhanced by the "high-grading" that goes on in the commercial sector. Commercial meteorites are still overwhelmingly ordinary chondrites.

jeff

At 01:30 PM 8/8/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeff Grossman wrote:

<70% of all known meteorites are Antarctic
  20% of all known meteorites have been collected
  commercially.
  The remaining 10% include all the falls and sporadic
  finds throughout history.>

   I respectfully disagree.  The naming conventions
tilt those numbers significantly toward the antarctic
meteorites.
   In antarctic collecting every individual is given
its own designation unless it is a fragment of a
closely associated stone.  All of these individuals are
eventually classified even if 80% of a collection
year are obviously related L5s.
   If every individual coming out of NWA were given
its own designation the numbers would completely
dwarf the antarctica numbers.  In most cases a single
stone is classified as representative of itself
and possibly hundreds of other similar stones.
NWA 801 CR and NWA 869 L5 are examples that come
to mind.
   In addition while all the antarctic meteorites
will eventually be classified this is not even
close to being the case for hot desert meteorites.
Due to lack of instrument time, money, and priorities
on rarer meteorite types, many, if not most, ordinary
chondrites from NWA will never be classified.  That
is not a criticism, just reality.  Those NWA meteorites
that are classified are predominantly the rarer types.
   A much more realistic determination would be a
comparison of different rare types of meteorites.  The
mars compendium for instance lists 11 hot desert, 10
antarctic, and 7 other mars meteorites for a ratio of
39:36:25 vs the ratio above of 20:70:10. It would
be interesting to see how the other rare meteorite
types compare.  Bernd?
   I don't know those comparisons but would guess
the results would be closer to the mars ratios than
the named classification ratio.
   Another comparison would be total mass.  We know
that NWA 869 has been estimated at 1500-2000kg alone.
What is the mass of all the antartic meteorites?

Eric Olson
http://www.star-bits.com

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