In a message dated 10/23/2003 5:22:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>Sorry, but this isn't correct.
One can indeed see meteors from a shower when the radiant is below the
horizon. Meteors do not cluster at the radiant point, but rather appear all
over the sky.<<
Yes you are right that shower meteors appear all over the sky, but if the radiant itself isn't within about 5 degrees from being on the horizon or above, you won't be seeing any shower members anywhere in the sky. The Orionid radiant rises near 11 pm. If someone said a meteor was an Orionid at 8:45 pm, the radiant would be about 33 degrees below the horizon. Conclusion would be that it wasn't an Orionid in this case.
George Zay

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