Hi, list -- 

   This article, and ones like it, have been going round for a 
couple months, and need a bit of clarification.

   This meteorite, NWA1950, seems very similar to the Martian
lherzolites, like ALHA77005, LEW88516, Y-793605, YA-1075 (and 
possibly GRV 9927). It is great to see, but (from what I know of it) is 
not all that different from other samples we now have. Nor are lherzolites 
all that rare among the Martian meteorites. Now if it were a true peridotite 
like Chassigny - that would be rare!

   I see nothing in the data on NWA1950 that 'hints at Mars water.' 

   The article says there are fewer than 20 Martian meteorites -- 
by my last count, there are 30. 

   The article says that "And apart from Nasa, no other scientific 
laboratory has had the opportunity to examine such a specimen ..." (like
NWA1950). This is just plain wrong. The NASA specimen they talk
about, ALHA77005, has been studied by laboratories all over the 
world, including in France. Ditto the other similar meteorites not 
mentioned by the article (LEW88516 and Y-793605). Part of 
ALHA77005 is even curated in Japan! 

   NASA does not keep the US-collected Antarctic meteorites to 
itself. They are distributed widely, to every researcher who has a 
legitimate scientific study. An international advisory committee screens
the requests, and recommends allocations of the US Antarctic 
meteorites.  

Allan    

Allan H. Treiman
Senior Staff Scientist
Lunar and Planetary Institute
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3414143.stm

New Mars rock hints at past water
By Dr David Whitehouse 
BBC News 
January 21, 2004

A rock found in the Atlas Mountains of southern Morocco in 2001 has been
confirmed as Martian in origin. 

The meteorite's chemical signature was checked out by researchers at the UK's
Southampton Oceanography Centre. 

The team that found it was led by experienced meteorite hunters Carine
Bidaut and Bruno Fectay, who have now found six rocks from Mars - a record. 

The meteorite would have been blasted off
the Red Planet by an impact and may hold clues to Mars' watery past. 

Space oddity 

It was picked up by a local worker on an isolated plateau in the mountains at a
location which is now being kept secret because of fears it may be spoilt by
visitors. 

"For 30 years the locals have been searching the region for fossils so they
know the area very well," Bruno Fectay told BBC News Online. "A few years ago
we taught them to look for meteorites. 

"The rocks of the region are mostly light
in colour whereas meteorites are dark, so they can be easily spotted." 

The meteorite - although in two fragments, they are classified as the same body -
has been officially called the North-West Africa 1950, but has been nicknamed the
Jules Verne, after the French author. 

It is described as a peridotite, an extremely rare type of Mars rock consisting of the
minerals olivine, pyroxene and plagioclase glass. 

Planet passport 

Scientists say the fragments are magmatic rocks. Magmatism is the main process
by which water moves from the core of planets to their surface. 

"It is a remarkable experience to hold it in your hand," Bruno Fectay said. "When
you hold it you are in a Martian magmatic chamber, deep in a volcano under the
surface of Mars. 

"We will never be able to go to such a place. This rock is our passport." 

Further analysis will help clarify the processes that produced magmas on
Mars, and perhaps make it possible to estimate the quantity of fluids - and
therefore water - released by volcanic activity on the planet in the past. 

Life on Mars 

Mars meteorites are extremely rare - fewer than 20 confirmed examples have
been identified - and all are believed to come from the same body of rock that was
blasted off the planet when it was hit by a large asteroid or comet. 

They have travelled through space and then fallen to Earth. 

Martian meteorites are distinguished by their relative youth, being at most 1.3
million years old, compared with 4.5 million years old for other meteorites. 

They also show evidence of rare gases found in the planet's atmosphere. 

In 1996 a team of scientists from the US space agency Nasa controversially
claimed to have found evidence of past life in a meteorite from Mars. 

Although they have been exposed to the Earth's weather and contamination from
its biosphere, Martian meteorites open a new way to study Mars because they are
basaltic rocks formed in the presence of water and so illuminate the story of water
on Mars. 

More to follow 

Only one other example of a so-called SNC meteorite equivalent to NWA 1950
has been found on Earth - a chunk of rock discovered in Antarctica in 1977. 

And apart from Nasa, no other scientific laboratory has had the opportunity to
examine such a specimen. 

Bidaut and Fectay have a stock of over 1,000 meteorites waiting to be taken up by
financial sponsors so they can be examined in European labs. 

"It takes us a while to get our finds analysed," said Bruno Fectay. "We may have
more of the remarkable meteorites from Mars waiting to be examined." 

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