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Tuffa I have.. orangettes.. I don't
know.
Rosie
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT
- Latin Pronounciation Help
Latin is a dead language for a reason.
The song is about a coachroach that is going through marijuana
withdraws.
Ask a question about Dhofar orangettes, I get no answer. Make
a crass comment about amputation by meteorite I'm popular. What a
list...
Bring it on.
Howard
Hola Rosie,
La Cucaracha is actually a quaint song
about Cannabis sativa (Linnaeus, 1753: an interesting Weed); but la
cucaracha is indeed a cockroach (Periplaneta americana: Linnaeus, 1758) and
La cucaracha (Blesynski, 1966) is definitely a certain moth of the La
genus:)
As an Odonatist you could ask a Lepidopterist for further
clarification, though field studies are always another option, and while I
see your point, a certain ode of the Pantala genus (sp.: Say, 1839) might be
more pleasing to to the ear of fellow enthusiasts.
Now I'm off topic
so I'll not elaborate:)
Saludos
Doug Dawn
Mexico
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LOL
amo amas amat amamus amatis
amant
I did my thesis on
Pachydiplex longipennis :-)
But I think la cucuracha is
a roach..
Rosie
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G'day,
When it comes to Latin in science, you
really can't go wrong, no matter what anyone says, because the "rules"
are not absolute, although some modern "experts" try to standardize
pronunciation. This is mostly because scientific naming using
Latin uses the English pronunciation of things like "Caesar" ==>
pron. C�sar. (Cesar w/ stress on "e"). Also if they are scientific
names, the original language pronunciation must be conserved for imports
like for the name of the Bessey's Cherry, "Prunus besseyi", or Farmer's
Orchid, "Dendrobium farmeri", or the Fijian Snail, "Ba humbugi", or the
moth "La cucuracha", look up the different species of the Gressittia
genus if you have a sophomoric sense of humor, and figure out how to
pronounce that one.
However, in Classical Latin (around the time
of Christ), if that is your interest, pronunciation can be quite
different, and Caesar is pronounced Kysar; the letter "v" is pronounced
as "w"; get a copy of Vox Latina by Sidney Allen if you want to do it
like it is thought the ancients did.
In two syllable words, the
stress ("accent") is almost always on the initial syllable. If you
have a short vowel (double consonant) in the second to last syllable in
words of more than three syllables - i.e., short vowel sound in the
second to last syllable, the stress is usually on the second to last
syllable, but there are lots of exceptions derived from letters like th,
ph, ch, etc. (this can be better appreciated when you keep in mind the
th sound is from the single Greek letter theta, the ph is also the
single letter "f" sound from Greek letter phi, and ch is still
considered a single letter en espa�ol. On the oher hand the "x" is
considered two consonants as it is pronounced "ks" and second to last
syllable is the tendency producing a short vowel sound as in
"Lexus-Nexus" or Texas, rather than TEEX-as; similarly the long sound in
words like "pinus" which thankfully botanists say PYE-nis instead of
PEE-nus, lu-PYE-nus instead of lu-PEE-nis.
This all seems close
enough to on-list to me if you want to study place names of ancient
meteorites for a good part of the then governed world, or old scientific
descriptions of rocks and suspected falls.
Saludos
Doug
Dawn
Mexico
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G'day all,
Sorry for the
slightly OT topic. In some of my meteorite readings I came across some
Latin words and terms. I would like some help with pronouncing them
and would certainly appreciate any help. If you can speak Latin could
you please contact me off list?
Thanks,
Jeff
Kuyken
I.M.C.A. #3085
www.meteorites.com.au
www.meteoritesaustralia.com
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