Arbitrarily, obvious math, estimated, little difference, safe to assume, I suspect, I 
think, etc. Thats enough please.

Bill Kieskowski



> While I agree that my number of '1000 years' was picked arbitrarily, to be 
> realistic, if we can not prepair hardened food production facilities within 
> the warning time avalible, it would matter little if the 'nuclear winter' 
> lasted for 1000 years or only a few years, as both numbers are well over the 
> elngth of time a human can go without food, even your average overweight 
> american! :)
> 
> Also, with regards to an impact that would cause long term effects in 
> comparison to prompt killoffs, keep in mind that the blast radius of an 
> explosion scales at the cube of the energy released, whereas the amount of 
> dust that gets kicked up into the air scales pretty linearly. So to point 
> out the obvious math, when you compare 2 impacts, one that causes a prompt 
> damage of radius 'x' to one that causes prompt damage of radius 2x, the 
> latter will eject 8 times as much material into the air. 3x you are at 27 
> times as much material, and so on. (this rule of thumb applies to nuclear 
> weapons and other 'conventional' explosions, as impact events liberate 
> energy during their entire trip through the atmosphere, the numbers may be a 
> little diffrent, but I'd say they are close enough for the purpose at hand). 
> To put that in perspective, an impact event that liberates 1000 times as 
> much energy (and hence dust into the atmosphere) as krakatoa would only have 
> a damage radius of about 250 miles (defined as the point where buildings, 
> trees, ect are knocked over) and a thermal burn radius of about 1000 miles, 
> but I suspect that number is a bit off, as the curvature of the earth would 
> come into play by then. Obviously there are many places where such an impact 
> could occur without killing any signifigant number of people (in the global 
> sense)
> 
> 
> I think that it's safe to assume there are a large number of areas on the 
> planet where an impact could occur that would cause orders of magnitude more 
> climate altering dust to go into the atmosphere, than say krakatoa, without 
> killing off a large portion of the life on this planet.
> 
> 
> >On the subject of the aftermath of a large impact -- specifically the
> >duration of
> >"nuclear winter", Stan wrote:
> >
> > > "In the event of a large impact, we would need to build an enclosure 
> >that
> > > protects food crops from the environment, and provides an alternate 
> >source
> > > of energy to the crops. Rice isn't going to grow if the sun is blacked 
> >out
> >for
> > > 1000 years because of a comet induced nuclear winter."
> >
> >An impact that doesn't kill everyone and everything within hours should not
> >have effects lasting anywhere near that long.  Months to a few years, I
> >would
> >guess, depending on the size and velocity of the impactor.  It's a very
> >difficult
> >thing to estimate since the only contemporary, large energy releasing 
> >events
> >we have to compare to are many orders of magnitude smaller in energy.
> >Krakatoa's four explosions on August 27, 1883, for instance, are estimated
> >to have released the energy equivalent of around 200 megatons of TNT.  They
> >gave us red sunsets for more than a year and lowered global temperatures as
> >much as 1.2 C.
> 
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