Why Adam have to put the allegations, when I have personaly ask to Mr.Farmer to put in pubblic the informations of who have put the fake informations on my account....Farmer have NEVER put this informations, and this show how many fake informations write Farmer in this list!


From: John Birdsell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated  Allegations
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:59:50 -0700

Dear Adam. It appears to us that once again you are making accusations about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements with facts. Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it seems to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back up your accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place. The meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which is:

"Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references-"


Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all waiting for you to present the "Facts" that you seem to have conveniently omitted.



Kind regards


-John & Dawn Arizona Skies Meteorites



Adam Hupe wrote:

Mike,

You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and address
others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because frankly
Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only be
able to blame yourself.  It is unfortunate that good people will have been
taken along the way.

Adam


----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings





ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went there,
saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell



us?


Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for
tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had
something to do with that? ANSWER please.

What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to


them


then sold the mass to you.

Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better.

I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London,
American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that wont
trade with me.....


Answer please.
Michael Farmer

----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings





Hi Mike,

Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember


the


Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again after


what


you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie.
How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the
scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di you
upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How


many


museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?


Mike


you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because


a


real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because


you


are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific
community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to


report


more of your escapades.

Tired of Mike's lies,

Adam

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings





YAWN, again, "UNNAMED SCIENTISTS", all talking the Hopes, neither one
scientists.
Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the


Amgala


posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy


it


from Adam if you want the "real thing" etc etc etc.
Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
bullshit emails full of "unnamed sources".
Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite


mailing


list.
Michael Farmer
By the way
How is the "we aren't dealers" spiel still working out?
and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have


generated


that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you


have


been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job


of


hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self


congratulating.


   On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want


anyone


to


go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right


now,


among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too.

Original Message ----- From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Ramblings




Dear List,

Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not


politics


or


arguments.  Some prominent people read it every morning like a


newspaper.


Others wait until they come home from a hard day's work and read it


for


relaxation.  I was shocked when we heard in Houston that several


scientists


read the archives on a regular basis, mostly for entertainment and


have


already come to conclusions about certain List members.  They


likened


it


to


a soap opera with its very own drama queen based in Tucson.  For


others


it


reinforced opinions already held.  Journalist read the archives and


use


information in their articles.  In some cases they have gone back


several


years and ask us what we thought about this or that.   Eventually


some


of


this material comes out in print so consider this every time you


make


a


post


to the List.  Every word is archived for the entire world to see.

All the best,


------------------------------------ Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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