Hi Martin and all,
Only one thing to say here, the Moroccans do NOT consider the many terrestrial rocks we all purchase in search of planetary meteorites, the cost of flying there, the cost of commissions, bonuses, etc., etc., etc. we pay for these. The cost of equipment, blades. polishing pads, classifying, etc, etc.
We take the risk, they reap the reward but will not consider our costs or 'risks', financial or otherwise. I believe the Moroccan market will end soon, why all this weird Moroccan behavior lately?? (anyone who has been there more than a couple times or work with them, opinions??) It makes me wonder if this is the last struggle to capitalize on their diminishing recourse. I ask this out of my own experience and am not trying to start something here.
This is just the way the meteorite market world works in Morocco, they play each of us against each other and they play each other. Like Dean pointed out, we were told that Mike was just there buying up all of the "new" material at $6.00 a gram so we better hurry up and offer more... I just received an email today that my "buy price" is $2000.00 per kilo, or $2.00 per gram. In two days the price has dropped by 66%. Amazing! I am optimistic about this new fall, but cautionary at the same time. Is this a new fall? Once I see actual material in my own hand, I can not say. I hope so.
If the Moroccans want to market their material directly to us, great, just do it properly without the games. If this were to ever happen, we would all have even less expensive NWA meteorites because those of us who deal there would not have to include the costs involved in acquiring these awesome finds.
Just my two cents,
Greg
----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] benguerir fall
Hiho,
sometimes I mean to hear a certain tenor in that mails, which annotate, that
now the Morrocans ask to high prices.
Why should they not ask prices, which are closer to that, what a collector
has to pay?
Meteorites are meteorites, no matter where they fall. What is the difference
between a Park Forest and this new fall? Why is it o.k. to sell Park Forest
at 40$/g, as you may see on some webpages and this new fall should be to
expensive with it's 6$?
Why should we expect the Morrocans to continue to sell their meteorites at
prices of a small fraction of that, what you'll find on the dealers pages or
on ebay?
O.k. in general the stuff has no field data and one has to do the
classification and the preparation, but the prices at which they sold in
past the achondrites f.e. were often ridicolous compared to those, paid
later by the collectors (just take a look to the dealer's list).
They found the stones, they brought them to market and many of us made some
good bucks in reselling them.
Imagine, if from the beginning on the Marrocains would have sold it directly
on ebay to the collectors...
Of course 6$/g buying price is not attractive for resale, but as a
collector's price for a fresh new fall certainly not to high.
And in general, if they start to sell more expensive, the retail prices will
raise, the profit marge may be a little bit shorter for a certain time, but
all in all, demand&supply I learned here on the list, it stays the same for
the resellers.
Or shall we regard the Morrocains because the living standard in Morrocco is
lower than in Europe and USA as impudent, because they ask now prices closer
to that here asked?
The approaching meteorite does not choose where to fall, Morrocans are not
second-class-people.
If one thinks, that it's to expensive - leave it and say just, bravo Matteo,
"no thanks" without complains.
My thoughts.
(If a new OC will fall in my backyard, be sure that I ask more than 6 bucks
per gram. O.k. if it's a large one, perhaps to the closest collector friends
and to those, who donated and helped in Romania, I would make a low price..)
Martin
----- Original Message ----- From: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] benguerir fall
$6/gr.? Exaggerated....moroccan people want to much now.....and I say when
the moroccans give to me in offer this material " no thanks, exaggerated
price ".
Matteo
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