On Fri, 13 May 2005 06:17:13 -0500, "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>So now they are going to force their will on the school board, so we are 
>having a "debate".  They have also redefined to the meaning of science in 
>Kansas, literally.  Not word for word, but it was something like "facts 
>about the world and enviroment around us" to "attempts to explain the world 
>and enviroment around us."  Again, not word for word, but it is easy to see 
>where this going.

Actually, when I read the redefinition of science, I really don't have a 
problem with it.  The
change is from:

"seeking natural explanations for what we observe around us," 

to

"continuing investigation that uses observation, hypothesis testing, 
measurement, experimentation,
logical argument and theory building to lead to more adequate explanations of 
natural phenomena." 

Which, if taught and followed will give students a toolkit to see what a load 
of tripe the
creationist agenda really is.

I think that science classrooms should take the CSI approach to teaching about 
evolution-- show them
the parallels between how forensic scientists determine how someone died hours 
or days or months ago
and how paleontologists try to determine how, when, and why organisms lived and 
died in the more
distant past.  Both fields (forensic science, paleontology) rely on much the 
same assumptions-- that
the laws that apply in the present applied in the past.

They should also be given, as required reading with a test aftwards, Carl 
Sagan's The Fine Art of
Baloney Detection (I REALLY suggest everone follow and read this link)

http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~urban/docs/baloney.html
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