Tom ,
I don't believe you were ever chided for questioning the need for reclassifying, I believe the problem stemmed from your derogatory remarks about those working (or not working, lazy, as you assert), on PV. AND as you can see now, work was being done, they were not sitting on their hands, doing nothing. Further, it seems to me as though they had a new type of class and wanted to be sure of their results.
That PV was not an ordinary H6 is not an opinion that was yours alone, and you were part of a vast majority. Instead of patting yourself on the back, why don't you apologize for your derisive insinuations about those who have put much time and effort into the study of PV.
Bob Holmes
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Robert Woolard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Classification Info
Hi List, back in March of 2004, I made a lot of enemies on the list for asking;
" I have to ask, was Portales Valley classified as a H6 ordinary
chondrite because "they" were to lazy to make up a new classification? It
would seem to me that this unique meteorite deserves it's own group instead
of being shoved into an already existing group.
I do not feel like we have found every type of meteorite yet, are "they
going do this with all of them, just sticking them in existing categories,
or will they make a new one if need be?"
I was called everything from an idiot to a stupid mother $#*&^# by a lot of
people on the list for questioning the classification. I was put in my
place, never question the scientists, if they said it was a H6 ordinary
chondrite, then it was!
Just thought it was interesting . : )
Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <><
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Woolard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Portales Valley Classification Info
Hello List,
Well for years now, I know a lot of us were puzzled by the classification of Portales Valley as an " H6 ordinary chondrite". (See my article in the May 2001 issue of Meteorite, titled " Portales Valley - A Not So Ordinary (Ordinary Chondrite??)! " In the recent past, the classification was modified a bit, being changed to read as an " H6 Impact Melt Breccia ".
I am excited to be able to say that there is a distinct chance the true uniqueness of PV may soon be reflected in a possible new moniker for this intriguing meteorite. David Weir was kind enough to make me aware of a new and comprehensive paper by Alex Ruzicka, Marvin Killgore, David Mittlefehldt, and Marc Fries in the current MAPS. In this detailed work, we now have the proposed reclassification of PV as an " H7, metallic-melt breccia (primitive achondrite)", with the case made for a new meteorite type designation of "Portalesite" due to this metallic-melt breccia characteristic.
You can read David's updated description of PV on his excellent website here:
http://www.meteoritestudies.com
Many thanks to David for news of this exciting paper, and to the authors of the paper as well.
Sincerely, Robert Woolard
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