Hello Arizona,
I know meteoritemarina personally. I can be a mediator with this case.
I do not think that he doesn't ship meteorite. Anyway they have had a copy fron Finland Post, because the weight of
parcel more than 2 kilogram.
When I return back to Russia (after Oct 16th) I should speak with meteoritemarina.
Ivan
Friday, September 30, 2005, 6:15:35 AM, you wrote:
> Hello Ivan and thanks for the information about
> MoneyBookers. That sounds as though that may be
> something worth looking into.
> Cheers
> -John & Dawn
> Arizona Skies Meteorites
> http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com
> --- ivanmete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> Hello Arizona, and List!
> I use a new money transfer system, named moneybookers.
> It is the same like PayPal, but has some difference.
> (European online transfer money system, based on UK).
> 1. Sender pay fees, not receiver. Fees is not high, 1%
> of amount but not more than
> 70 cents or 50 eurocents per transfer.
> PayPal like 30 cents plus 2.9% from amount for
> standard account.
> 2. Moneybookers has an escrow payment: (here is from
> help topic)
> What if the Seller does not ship the items? -
> Funds will not be released to the Seller until the
> buyer has received and approved the items he is
> purchasing. This eliminates the concern for
> non-shipment of goods.
> How can an Escrow payment be cancelled? -
> The seller may cancel the transaction at any time and
> the payment and security
> deposit would then be returned to the buyer. The buyer
> may reject the transaction during the
> inspection period after receiving the items, but the
> buyer is still responsible for
> shipping the merchandise back to the seller, and for
> paying any fees.
> For which purposes can I use Moneybookers Escrow for?
> -
> Our escrow service is ideal for auction payments,
> domain name transfers
> and any other type of national or international
> trading.
> PayPal :(also from help menu)
> Are you an escrow service? -
> No. We do not provide escrow-related services. We are
> a person-to-person payment service that
> enables instant and secure electronic payments.
> If you have a new customer or do not trust somebody,
> just use escrow.
> It is cost something, but you are feeling better.
> When I start use moneybookers, my oversee auctions
> grown up.
> You can add logo of moneybookers to your auctions the
> same way as PayPal does.
> If you are a seller you will get more bids from Europe
> and other oversee, also from countries which PayPal
> doesn't accept.
> Did you know that now there are many Russians (I'm not
> alone)
> start collect meteorites, but have a difficulties use
> PayPal or other money transfer?
> Moneybookers works for Russia too.
> Also safe on PayPal fees (and this is a lot!)
> If you a buyer, pay maximum $.70 fee and your seller
> would be happy, because there no fees for seller.
> Learn more about Moneybookers here:
> http://www.moneybookers.com/app/?rid=1308477
> Friday, September 30, 2005, 3:45:26 AM, you wrote:
>> Hi Mike and thanks for your post. This should be a
>> warning to EVERYONE! We had the same thing happen on
>> an expensive ebay purchase. The seller kept saying
>> that our order would arrive "soon"...of course it
>> never arrived. By the time we had decided to report
>> the seller to ebay and paypal, it was too late.
> Paypal
>> likes to pretend that they are the "safest" way to
> pay
>> for items, but you are out of luck if the item never
>> arrives or is not as described and you have waited
>> longer than the very limited time they allow you to
>> report a problem. This is why eveyone that uses
> paypal
>> should ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS choose their credit
> card
>> as a payment source. Paypal does not like it when
> you
>> do this and they try very hard to trick you into
> using
>> an e-check or a transfer from your bank account.
> Don't
>> fall for this. Always use your credit card as the
>> funding source! That way you can file a chargeback
>> dispute against the seller if you don't receive the
>> merchandise as described. Paypal won't tell you that
>> you can file a chargeback either as they don't want
>> you to know about it. In fact paypal will sometimes
>> actively try to dispute your chargeback as they
> tried
>> unsucessfully in our case.
>> Another VERY IMPORTANT warning regarding paypal is
>> that you should always remove ALL of your funds
> from
>> your account BEFORE you pay w/ a credit card.
>> Otherwise, paypal will use all of the funds in your
>> paypal account and only then after the funds are
> used,
>> charge the remaining balance due to your credit
> card.
>> This is what paypal does even when your specifically
>> indicate that you want the purchase to be funded by
>> your credit card. We feel that this is a very
>> misleading practice on the part of paypal, however
> if
>> you read the fine print of your paypal contract very
>> carefully, it states that they can do this.
>> The final note on this...Fortuntately, on our
> purchase
>> we used our credit card and only lost a small amount
>> of funds from our paypal account. We filed a dispute
>> w/ our credit card company, paypal tried to claim
> that
>> we had received the merchandise (which we had not),
>> and our credit card company credited our account for
>> the full amount of the purchase. The seller was
>> delisted from ebay (he did the same thing to 10-15
>> other buyers), and eventually declared chapter 11
>> bankruptcy!
>> Hope this story along with Mike Miller's serve as a
>> warning for everyone.
>> Cheers
>> -John
>> --- Mike / flattoprocks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>> Hello everyone I purchased a $1500 item on E-bay
>>> it was an overseas
>>> purchase and I waited too long to report it to
>>> Pay-Pal or E-bay. I want to
>>> let everyone know who the seller is and what
>>> happened in case they ever want
>>> to deal with this person or have a dispute they
> need
>>> resolved. Right now I
>>> am wondering if it is ok to post the persons E-bay
>>> name on the list?
>>> Mike Miller // E-Bay flattoprocks
>>> Website // www.meteoritefinder.com
>>> Check out the web site it is up and running!
>>> Mike Miller 230 Greenway Rd. Kingman AZ 86401
>>>
>>>
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> and on all eBay auctions?
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> Best regards,
> finmet on ebay
> http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=finmet
> Please check my partners on ebay:
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> Best regards,
> Ivan, finmet
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