Hi All,
I want to mention that it has to be a very funny story about the "second fall"
named Dashowuz.
First real fall was at Kunya Urgench. I was there and brought a lot of material
from there. After many discussions with the people that I want to buy stones
like that I know that some of the mass (about 7 kg) was moved to Dashowuz. At
that time I had no possibility to find the person in Dashowuz. But later we
heard about another "fall". About half a year later only. Somebody bought a
meteorite there.
Please look at the map -- distance about 50 km, please look at the analyzes of
both meteorites -- SAME, please look at the images of both of them --
SIMILAR!!, please look at the description of the stones -- very active iron is
oxidizing fast. TWO BOMBS (METEORITES) DO NOT FELL IN THE SAME HOLE! Only in
desert we can find two (more) similar meteorites nearby. But in this case
they'll be parts of a shower and will be named as one meteorite or they'll be
different with big difference in Earth live.
I do not understand why noncom agreed to give a separate name to a meteorite
that was for sure removed from a fall place and has 100% similar studying and
visual data. Really stupid.
Sorry that did not said this before...
All the best,
Serge
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007
> 13:59:05 +0200> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Turkmenistan falls> > Hi Doug,>
> > and you forgot to mention, that the Turkmen-people had wished, that the
> 1ton> stone would have hammered that Nyjazov right on the head, as he was an>
> especially idiotic example of the meanwhile rarer species, called>
> "megalomaniac dictator".> > Nyjazov wrote a pseudo-religious book, an
> incredible rubbish. That book he> made to the main subject in all schools and
> no university diploma without> the examinee being able to recite the content
> word by word.> He let build monuments for this book, in TV-shows the people
> danced arounf> that book (and he wasn't pleased, that most national libraries
> all around> the world, refused to accept the copies he presented them). In
> the capital> he let errect a golden statue of himself, motor-operated to turn
> around for> the sun always shining in his face. He officially redefined the
> names of the> months, one is named now after his mother. Frequently he
> arranged song> contests, with the requirement that all lyrics had to praise
> his splendour,> glory and wisdom.> Those were after a while even for him so
> boring, that he didn't attend the> spectacles anymore.> In the capital he
> started a project, that on each intersection underpasses> were built, and by
> law the pedestrian had to use them, although there are> almost no private
> cars in town, only for not disturbing him, when he is> going by car. > He
> bleed his people dry, destroyed the medicare, which is now worse than in>
> Africa, he cited the people to hard labours, arbitrary imprisonments &>
> torture were the orders of each day.> Thanks God he wasn't so militaristic
> like e.g. Kim Jong-il,> but in the row of dictators a Lukashenko is a choir
> boy in comparision.> That man was mentally insane.> > I've some hundred grams
> of his "Sapamurat Turkmenbashi" H5 left. Small rusty> fragments. But I will
> store them a few years, as they are still suffering> from the Russian disease
> and underrated. Yep it has 1ton tkw, but 1ton of> that 1ton is a single
> stone. No supply anymore. Happy those, who bought in> time!> > Buckleboo!>
> Martin> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von> MexicoDoug> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28.
> März 2007 04:31> An: Meteorite Mailing List> Betreff: [meteorite-list]
> Turkmenistan falls> > Dear Listees,> > I just noticed Mike offered up for
> sale a meteorite from Turkmenistan,> beautiful!>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170095403910> > DASHOGUZ
> (H5) fall, 1998. This would appear to be the fresh good stuff> recovered by
> Kakabay Annaniyazov around the rim of the crater as everything> in the crater
> was apparently terribly oxidized officially with a total of> only 7kg. While
> NAU only has 21 grams for classification the rest seems to> be in the hands
> of an anonymous private collector.> > Check out this little gem that
> coincidentally came into my inbox> (embellished only slightly):> > On June
> 20, 1998, the eve of the anniversary of the democratic authoritarian> head of
> state of Turkmenistan was to celebrate the anniversary of his rise> to power
> on June 21 (Summer Solstice). By decree, a meteorite fell on his> country on
> that day to herald in the celebration - weighing well over a> metric ton! A
> diehard meteorite devotee, the kingly leader thought, ...> "This one has my
> name all over it".> > He then decreed that the meteorite would be named "His
> Excellency, World> Leader of Turkmens and President Saparmurat Atayevich
> Niyazov", after> himself. We better know this meteorite as KUNYA-URGENCH
> (H5), as the> Nomenclature Committee did not respect his wishes with official
> status. It> was then decreed in some circles underground, that members of
> said committee> would have their tongues cut out if they ever set foot in
> Turkmenistan> looking for meteorites. The King emphasized this point by
> commanding a> repeat occurrence for collectors.> > Sure enough, on September
> 5, 1998, two and a half months later, another H5> fell which was named
> DASHOGUZ, just 50 kilometers away from the original.> The British Museum then
> was rumored to diplomatically motion for the tongues> of its colleagues by
> making Turkmenbashy (=Great Leader of the Turkmens) a> synonym in the style
> of Alexander the Great, using his first name: also> known as: Saparmurat
> Turkmenbashy (Saparmurat the Great Leader of the> Turkmens). And that
> official synonym, given the nod by Turkmen scientists> for the original
> Turkmenbashy fall, continues today.> > His Excellency, Great Leader of
> Turkmens and President Saparmurat Atayevich> Niyazov unfortunately joined the
> stars from whence he came officially around> the Winter Solstice (December
> 21, 2006).> > It is an interesting footnote that those are the only two
> witnessed falls> ever recorded for Turkmenistan :-) The new President of
> Turkmenistan is:> Gurbanguly Mälikgulyýewiç Berdimuhammedow soon maybe to add
> Turkmenbashy.> The grapevine has it he may also command a meteorite fall in
> his name to> consolidate rule in this challenging resource rich country - and
> his is> rumored to be the son of Turkmenbashy.> > Best Health and Best
> Wishes,> Doug> > ______________________________________________>
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