Hi All:
   
  This whole thread is a real shame, I have only been hunting for about a year 
and have found nine meteorites to date; I also have purchased some off ebay 
(mostly achondrites). I find it a fascinating hobby where you can be outside 
having fun, read about asteroids and how rocks from other planets are formed, 
and the best thing is to hold rocks from outer space.  I have hunted fossils 
and minerals for many years, but I think meteorites are the most rewarding.
   
  I don’t understand all this tension between everyone.  We should all be in 
this together and share our experiences.  I always hope people find meteorites 
every time they hunt, in fact, I can’t wait until someone finds another ‘Mars’ 
or ‘Achondrite’.  I think we all benefit.  I watched the meteorite hunting 
‘Cash and Treasures’ show for about the 10th time recently and everyone was so 
unified and having a good time hunting; this was also the feeling I got in 
Tucson.
   
  Another thing, why this conflict between the states? I live in California so 
that’s where I hunt; I pretty much only do day trips.  I kinda resent having an 
“attitude” about anything.  When Adam sent his “links’ to his pics from his 
recent trip in California/Nevada, I congratulated him on his finds and I hope 
he has an achondrite, that would be fantastic.  Who cares if it was found in 
California or Nevada or Arizonia… so what.
   
  I truly agree – if someone discovers a meteorite, a strewn field, or 
something unusual, then they should be allowed to study the area until they 
feel their research is complete.  However, if someone is performing continuing 
scientific studies over a certain region that many people are hunting and is 
open knowledge to the public, then I don’t see the problem with everyone 
getting provision numbers for finds in that particular area.  For example if 
someone found a strewn field in Arizona and was researching the area, and then 
others found out about it through the Bulletin and started collecting 
meteorites, what’s the problem in getting numbers for those meteorites.  The 
continuing studies might help others in future find more meteorites.  I think 
the scientific value of meteorites is important.
   
  It make me sad the Rubin is quitting (and I think his son is losing the most) 
as I feel father son activities are very important; anyway stamp collection is 
very boring,  I used to collect stamps when I was a kid.  Find another hobby.
   
  Let’s try and be more unified and work together… and as always… 
   
  Happy Hunting
   
  Greg Stanley  
  

Adam Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Dear List,

It kind of takes the fun out of it when somebody feels
the need to snitch on an out of state group to the
BLM. This only serves to weaken the hobby of hunting.

By the way, I was told that there was a BLM agent
hanging around the meteorite group this year in
Tucson. He was recognized in one of the images posted
to the List.

I got nothing but grief over the Randsburg iron even
though its provenance goes back three decades.
Questions about whether it was really a transplanted
Campo or Chuckwalla forced me to liquidate it for
free. I donated the entire mass to a church in North
Carolina because I was so disgusted with the politics
surrounding this California meteorite.

Luckily my pairing to the Old Woman was found on
private property or I am sure there would be some more
grief in regards to this shale ball.

The best advice for anybody searching California lake
beds is to check out the laws regarding them. It is
difficult to know if you are searching on private
property or not so it is best to question the locals.
Do not be afraid to bang on a few doors and ask
questions. I would rather search on private property
with a solid agreement than risk getting in trouble.
Besides, you can get an exclusive if you do your
research which accounts for 90% of any true treasure
hunting effort.

I plan a long term stay in the Mojave next fall with
all of the proper equipment and permissions so it
should be an enjoyable effort.

Best Regards,

Adam

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