this is offensive, and not just to me, but to native americans.

how is it, exactly, that you're expert in how vengeful native american spirits will be---that is if they're vengeful at all?

and might the measure of an honorable life mitigate the wrath you predict, or are you just making this into a nice little primitive fable?

and just to be clear, trust me, if get suddenly drop, it's not because of a meteorite transaction; i've been pushing notions of good living for far too long.

moreover, there exist countless objects in nature that have been venerated by previous cultures that we have no idea of---and that's a free pass?! is it tribe specific? just checking.




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On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:49 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote:

Hi Paul (Litig8n-shark), all -

It's funny: you're worrying about the courts, while
oblivious to what has been observed to be incidents of
horrendous bad luck following upon the desecration of
native american religious artifacts. (I'm sorry, but
for the time being I'll have to leave that statement
without rigourous documentation.)

While some may have previously bought or sold
Williamette while oblivous to its earlier religious
use, if you now feel comfortable purchasing it at
auction, go on ahead. We need some data on mache
katet, and it should be easy enough to follow the
fates of the auction's winners.

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Good evening, Folks,

I've not kept up with this thread, unfortunately.
However, this post makes
me think that what I am looking at is the
possibility of another demand for
"reparations"...25.....50, or 100, or more years
later.  When will it end?  For
what "special" group, shall there be an unlimited
statute of limitations?
Shall causes-of-action be allowed to pass down
through families, or "special"
groups--as a result of nothing more than
bloodline--in perpetuity?  I sincerely
hope not.

Are there any among us who can't remotely align with
a "special" group who
has been discriminated against, under color of
governmental authority, in the
past few hundred years?  In my opinion, no group
should be entitled to multiple
bites at the apple, over decades.

Might your position on this issue change if
suddenly, your country's laws
changed, and all of a sudden you found your
meteorite collection, or part
thereof, being subject to confiscation?  Just a
thought.

Best Regards,

Paul Martyn
Savannah, Georgia

In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:53:02 PM Eastern
Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That is quite a condensed version of a very
interesting story.

Good place to start and follow the references.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willamette_Meteorite

Rob Wesel
http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "E.P. Grondine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for
sale?



Hi Pete, all -

If I remember correctly, the meteorite was

considered

a sacred relic by the local people, but the

European

settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of

it

was hauled off by wagon and sold.




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