"Perhaps a study might be done on the deterioration of a pallaside meteorite in tropical conditions."

Hi Francis, List,

Nice consolation thought. At 3800 meters altitude in the mountains, they are lucky if they don't dip below freezing most nights of the year and in most of the days of the year if they hit 21 C (70 F), that would be a nice day, too... Tropical latitude sure, though freezing one's derrière off isn't usually considered tropical conditions! That could also be severe in the sense that the temperature swings are great, and that is what weathers meteorites mostly. Maybe the residues of the bolide are safer insulated underground in a fresh water heat sink to moderate this... there's a wishful thought, if the water frosts a lot that expansion/contraction doesn't sound too good, either.

Speaking of pallasites, I was just curious whether the "impact models" a lot of people are "adopting" to model this event could be tweeked to predict, for Esquel's event, that peridots would turn into powder balls. http://www.meteoriteman.com/images/32_point_peridot_pear_shape.jpg Huckitta, Fukang and Krasnojarsk, and the nicely oriented Steve Arnold#1, too.

Sure the energies from total mass and even airbraking are quite different, but the cross sectional area to mass ratio of a pallasite work the opposite way a bit, and I get the idea that a collision at 0.2 Km/s 1 ton piece of metal might stress the Swiss cheese matrix of a pallasite enough to make the crystals feel worse than a finger slammed shut in a car door according to these models...
Best wishes,
Doug


----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas, Peru Meteorite Could Be 10 Tons



--- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Matteo, they have no plans to recover the meteorite.
It sits, today one month and one day under sewage
water. What do you think a fragile high-metal
meteorite will look like after that?

 Whew. At least it wasn't a 4.2 billion year old
Martian! Perhaps a study might be done on the
deterioration of a pallaside meteorite in tropical
conditions. Seriously. It would let us know what can
be expected to be found how long after falls. It's
making the best of a deplorable situation, but that's
a possible use of the buried mass.

It is surely one of the most corrupt places
I have been, sad to say.

 I'm sure it was a very bad experience! Please know
Peru hasn't got the corner market for police
corruption. Unfortunately, it's abundant!  Why, just
last week our sheriff was found drunk, driving, and
they had reason to also give him a urine test. The
story was stifled until today. See
http://reviewonline.com/news/articles.asp?articleID=10493
   On the subject of impact sites, the lakes of
hydrocarbons on Titan that have been discovered do not
appear to be circular impact basins converted to lakes
as in the case of lakebeds on Mars. Therefore there is
some sort of tectonic activity there. Otherwise too
the streams would be very sinuous and the landsape
would be a peneplain, which it is not.
 If you mix hydrocarbons and water-ice in a slurry
and melt and refreeze, under the right conditions you
can get acicular needle shaped crystals of ice that
grow dendritic patterns.
 They look like little Christmas Trees. Although
Huygens didn't see any, the conditions may exist for
their formation, and this is what would pass for
"foliage" on cold, cryogenic Titan. It should be
looked for. They would be evidence of recent
subsurface heating.

Francis Graham



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