I know that this thread centers on metal imbedded in some Mammoth tusks BUT
I've yet seen where anyone has referred to 1988 archaeologist Bill Topping's
find of metal shrapnel found in Clovis Flakes and his unsuccessful attempt
to reproduce this kind of event by firing a 12 ga. shotgun filled with tiny
metal particles at similar flakes. Nat Geo "Mammoth Mystery".
I wish somebody who's seen this show would comment on it's authenticity. As
a layperson, I'm impressed but I feel exposed without anyone's criticism or
corroboration or commentary.
Jerry Flaherty
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Hi,
Bear in mind that they have found exactly EIGHT
mammoth tusks and ONE Siberian bison tusk with
this evidence after sorting through a warehouse of
mammoth ivory gathered from all over. Again, it's the
few and tiny clues in a mountain of potential evidence.
Such tusks are relatively plentiful and are in big demand
among those who need ivory legitimately in small qualtities,
now that ivory is banned. Just go on eBay and search
for guitar saddle (and saddle blanks) of "mammoth ivory"
and "fossil ivory"! (Fossil walrus tusk is popular, too.)
So, all they've found is just the few examples of a rare
marker of an event. Viewed that way, it does not seem so
unreasonable that there would be a handful of animals at
the edge of a blast zone from an airburst that would survive
the event but get "peppered." It's not as if all the mammoths
of the era were walking around with tusk-wounds and shaking
their shaggy heads to stop the ringing in those big ears...
Sterling K. Webb
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Wups! Sounds like I may have inadvertently stepped on some academic toes.
I don't mean to accuse the good doctor of faking anything, and apologize
if
it came out like that. I'm just trying to imagine a cosmic event that
would
hurl near-microscopic BBs of iron through the atmosphere at meteoric speed
without reducing them to incandescent vapor, yet have them keep enough
inertia and heat to penetrate bone and ivory. Popular cinema
representations aside ("Armageddon", anyone?) meteorites that go that fast
and are that small are really meteors and burn up before hitting the
ground.
Slightly bigger bits, a la Holbrook, went into dark/cold flight long
before
getting near the ground. Our atmosphere is a very efficient protection
device. Given the extraordinary claim, I'd like extraordinary evidence.
Is there a terrestrial phenomenon that would fill the bill, like volcanic
ash? Where were the tusks and bones originally found, and in conjunction
with what sediments/plant matter/snow? Were they on the surface, or did
they have to be excavated, and can their location be revisited for
sampling?
Have deposits of the smoking iron pellets (okay from now on, I'm just
going
to call them Hot Hail, as in the Flash Gordon Emperor Ming device) been
found elsewhere, in the same manner as the K-T iridium layer? If the Hot
Hail penetrated mammoth tusks, we should find them imbedded in soil
deposits, snow layers, and tree trunks from the same era. Did the Hot
Hail
have a strewnfield?
I know, I know.... too many questions with no theory.
Tracy Latimer
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Hi, List
Well, I knew we were going to get back to those
mammoth teeth... How about the history of the
whole crazy thing? Who is Richard B. Firestone?
Firestone is a well-established scientist
I think you can dismiss the shotgun theory, really:
No Cardiff Giant, no Abominable Snow Man, no fake
diamond mine, no Barnum tricks.
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