Other thoughts?
Hi Martin,
Here are my thoughts and opinion.
"This meteorite is guaranteed to be authentic or your
money back !!"
The word "or" bothers me. It's a hedge.
This statement should NEVER appear on a meteorite sale listing, be it
auction, retail or whatever. Either it is a meteorite, or it isn't and if
the seller isn't sure, the seller should say so.
Think about it. It is certainly acceptable to offer a refund for various
reasons, but it is not acceptable to offer a refund because the meteorite
you are selling is not really a meteorite, or the meteorite which claim it
to be. How much sense does that make? None!
IMHO, anyone who buys a meteorite under those circumstances is asking for
trouble.
Either it is a meteorite or it is not and if you are not 100% sure it is
what you claim it is, then you don't need to be presenting it as such and
selling it as such.
I am astounded anyone would buy a meteorite with that disclaimer. I am just
now beginning to build back up my collection. Only reputable dealers and
sources will get my money and I certainly won't be spending money on
auctions or retailers where I have to prove authenticity to get a refund.
The onus is not on the buyer to prove it is a meteorite, it is on the
seller.
BTW, Martin, nice to see you writing on the list again. How is Big Sky
Country?
-Walter Branch
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dark Matter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mike Bandli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?
Hi Mike and all,
I too am curious about some of the rare meteorites I see advertised on
ebay, and I look forward to reading something that demonstrates the
authenticity on these historic piece beyond the somewhat unnerving
statement that "This meteorite is guaranteed to be authentic or your
money back !!"
Over the years I have acquired a sizable portion of a world-class
collection among other special pieces and have above average knowledge
of material distribution, and of course, a vested interest in
preserving the reputation of the historic and valuable specimens.
For example, some recent ebay offerings included Bialystok and
Andover, two historic falls of extremely low distribution. Here are
the auction links.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bialystok-Meteorite-Rare-Historic-Howardite-from-Poland_W0QQitemZ250229710427QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250229710427
http://cgi.ebay.com/Andover-Maine-Meteorite-Witnessed-Fall_W0QQitemZ250229711253QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250229711253
Representatives of both these localities are in my collection and I
have written about them in my Accretion Desk articles. Here are some
pictures:
http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2005/November/andover.jpg
http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2005/November/bailystok.jpg
http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2005/November/bailystok_number.jpg
Although I have not chased down all the total weight of the pieces of
Bailystok distributed over time, I have personally gone so far as to
contact the Humboldt museum (the original source of my piece and its
number) shed light on the distribution of this extremely rare and
historic howardite. Therefore, the appearance of half a gram of
Bailystok on ebay was somewhat extraordinary, only to be outdone by
its low selling price.
Andover is another matter. Its distribution is greater, but still few
have comparison. At $425/g for an L6, I hope there is more than an
Nininger quote to back up its provenience.
Other thoughts?
Martin
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Mike Bandli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bob,
I'm sure there are a couple people on the list that benefit from your
eBay
authenticity posts, but maybe you could set that time aside for doing a
little research as to where your 'Zulu Queen' meteorite really came from
(if
it really is Zulu Queen). No sense it in pointing out other people's
authenticity issues if you can't back up your own.
Still waiting for an answer (the truth).
Kind regards,
Mike Bandli
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob
Evans
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 3:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?
I guess it amuses me when I get a response from some idiot selling junk
as
meteorites on ebay
Case in Point :
http://cgi.ebay.com/meteorites-and-collectables_W0QQitemZ110242519960QQihZ00
1QQcategoryZ3224QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Response to my inquiry regarding authenticity :
Dear maccers531,
" your not going to like this but its intuition ive been studying them
for
awhile now and i know what im doing because also when i check certain
areas
i found stuff at i go back later and ive recovered what ever else new
fell
around they are planetary and ill probably be told no its not real but i
know they are and if you do not like them send them back for a full
refund
and also the magnet the look the fusion lets talk "
- deazombie
Duh !
Seems like all these people selling fakes one ebay share the inability
to
spell correctly and use proper grammar.
BE
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