---- Dark Matter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

<Here's a link to Eric's site stating Vigarano as the (consistently)
 oldest meteorite.   Maybe Eric can shed more light on his statement.>

Here is what I wrote on my web page.

<A case can be made for Vigarano being the oldest meteorite.  Although older 
ages have been recorded for other meteorites they are isolated measurements and 
do not give as consistently an old age as does Vigarano. >

    First let me say that my comments were about relative age and not  how 
primitive vigarano is.  As Jeff mentioned that is another matter entirely.

    Second there are different methods for determining age.   Absolute age is 
how long ago something happened and is given by isotopes with long decay ages 
like Uranium-Lead.   Relative ages at the beginning of the solar system are 
determined by extinct isotopes with short decay ages.   The basic premise is 
that the solar system was salted with a dose of these isotopes and as time 
passes there is less and less of the isotope that is decaying.   So the earlier 
a solid forms the more of this isotope it has and as a result there is more of 
the decay product locked into the structure of the solid.

     So for relative ages one meteorite was picked as the zero point and the 
rest are either younger or older in relation to it.   For the life of me I 
can't remember what was used as the  zero point

     The third point is that there are different sampling methods.  A sample 
can be either "whole rock" ie representative of the meteorite as a whole or 
samples of specific parts, clasts, CAIs etc.   So if you are aging samples 
taken from different points on a meteorite they can give different ages if you 
are sampling a CAI or a part that accreated slightly earlier or later than the 
rest of the meteorite.  At the time my statement was written (6 or 7 years ago) 
I was told that there were samples that were older than vigarano however those 
early dates were not representative or consistent for those meteorites as a 
whole.  Vigarano however gave consistently old relative dates even if they were 
not the the oldest ever recorded.   That is the basis of my statement.   
However 6 or 7 years is a long time in the science of meteorites, does anybody 
know of any research that makes my statement invalid today?

--
Eric Olson
7682 Firethorn Dr
Fayetteville, NC 28311

http://www.star-bits.com
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