Dear Svend,

I have read the report of EMTT and i agree with you. I know EMTT and Emmanuel Dransart, who performed the analyses, the purpose being just to bring "an opinion on the metallic structure of a meteorite's fragment". Therefore, a polished and etched surface was observed with a binocular, with a picture showing the surface that was observed. The picture displays "a kamacite grain with Neumann lines" and some "silicated phases, rich in pyroxene and olivine". The conclusion of Emmanuel Dransart is that it is an Og Octahedrite, such as Ziz that was also studied at the same lab (EMTT). And as you said, Svend, pairing with Ziz is not claimed, but as far as the 1st examination can tell, their grain size are similar and it is the same type.

All the best,

Frederic Beroud
www.meteoriteshow.com
IMCA #2491

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Svend Buhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:45 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] follow up on Ziz vs. new iron RFSPOD August 14


to all interested,

The Hmanis asked me to forward a follow up on their new irons including a 34kg specimen they had displayed at this year's Enisheim/France meteorite fair. One of the new finds acquired from another dealer was kindly posted by Michael Johnson as Rocks from Space Picture of the Day on August 14.

M. Hmani informed me that he had meanwhile been issued a "certificate" by the Etudes Metallurgiques et de Traitment Thermique (EMTT) which arrives to the conclusion that "grain size and structure of the new material is identical with Ziz (NWA 854)". Mr. Hmani was so kind to forward me the certificate on my request and allowed me to upload the paper on my website: http://www.meteorite-recon.com/en/Meteoritensammlung.htm (see Inventory # B-0243)

To my understanding the paper states that the questioned iron is an og octehedrite such as Ziz. According to the certificate a microscopic analysis of an etched surface has been performed but no element mapping or neutron activation scan. I assume, the certificate does not intend to claim a pairing. Please note that this is my personal opinion.

cheers

Svend

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