Here's an appropriate news item:

http://www.thanhniennews.com/society/?catid=3&newsid=43452
http://www.thanhniennews.com/society/?catid=3&newsid=43452

Best, 
Pete





> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:14:15 -0800
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Unusual new lunar or hokum?
>
> Mitch, Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. We would like to SEE 
> the proof and I would like the following conflicts resolved to win me over. 
> You could foreclose all the nay saying and skeptics by resolving the 
> following conflicts:
>
> Six+ conflicts in your claims for the Illinois Lunarite are incompatible 
> within your own claims and suggest this is other than a lunar meteorite.
>
> 1. One matching plot out of 8+ graphs isn't proof--in fact it is 
> disqualifying. I can find something somewhere to plot any two substances 
> together with some shared feature. Minus 1
>
> 2. "Lunar Isotopic Oxygen Plot "Match""... Those would be the same as 
> terrestrial plots owing to the Earth-Moon common origin. This match proves 
> only that they originated in the local neighborhood. This doesn't rule out a 
> slag pile in South Chicago and it doesn't rule in the moon. 0/ Neutral
>
> 3. The main mass size you've claimed couldn't physically exist for a 
> meteorite found on earth. There is an envelope of maximum object size that 
> can be launched from the lunar surface via impact that 1) does not melt due 
> to acceleration energies YET 2) have enough mass to survive transit of the 
> atmosphere. That envelope accommodates a original mass of a few kilograms not 
> a few tons. Bonus points lost in that your petrological content doesn't 
> include shock induced masklenite/glass. Minus 2 and also disqualifying.
>
> 4. It is 99.99999% improbable to have a valid lunar specimen which is an all 
> inclusive, collective petrology, commingled conglomeration, that contains 
> virtually every single petrological type found in lunar meteorites known to 
> science. The glaring exception would be a melt pile assembled by aliens in a 
> anti-gravity experiment gone arye. Minus 1-- Practically impossible so 
> practically disqualifying.
>
> 5 Two legitimate, proven, qualified, do-it-for-a-living-professional experts 
> on meteorites (who are also list members) have passed judgment on your 
> material, while you have yet to reveal the researchers who did your analysis 
> along with their complete reports.
> Minus 2 Pretty much disqualifying in my book.
>
> 6. Why haven't you dated the material if you've done all the other extensive 
> testing? Why leave out the one test that would prove a date more inline with 
> lunar ages? Minus 1
>
> 7. Why can't you get anyone to come forward to defend your claim and sponsor 
> it before the NonCom Committee. Frankly, every planetary scientist in the 
> world would want a chance at that rock given its exotic preliminary 
> classification. The only thing you didn't claim was antraxite content with 
> fossil life forms--Otherwise, you'd have the perfect and complete 
> meteorite-plus collection in a single specimen. Minus 1
>
> If you are keeping score: Plus 0, Neutral 1, Minus 8. This cannot be a lunar 
> meteorie nor any planetary meteorite--it is not a chondrite so unless you can 
> underpin your claims with something such as an absolute formation age from 
> 100,000 to 300,000 to 4.3± billion years, it can't be a meteorite-- period.
>
> Skeptically but honestly submited
> Elton
>
>> On 11/3/08 5:17 PM, "Patricia Harris" aka Mitch Minor
>  wrote:
> Back in 2005 Ted Bunch confirmed this specimen as a
> 100% meteorite, and he wasmsuppose to classify this meteorite, and publish 
> it. I waited 9 months for classification but Ted never completed it. Since 
> then many tests have been completed to support my classification for this 
> Lunar meteorite specimen. All tests completed offer facts and support for my 
> classification. The Mineral Chemistry End Members, and Isotopic measurements 
> Oxygen Isotopes are all within Lunar Mineralogy, and Lunar Isotopic fields. 
> Geochemists, and Scientists have studied this Lunar Specimen , and they are 
> in agreement with my classification. If you have other questions please feel 
> free to contact me. Mitch Minor office (815)740-3834 cell(815)545-5803
>
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