Hello Zelimir, Norbert and all,

In a very recent conversation Tony Irving told me that he was re-doing the 
classification of Tafassasset with Ted Bunch, and that the results would be 
published in a formal paper. I belive they are practically done so  the new 
classification should be announced pretty soon. 
And it is not bracchinite or CR6, and it is very interesting, but I would 
prefer to let them tell the story themselves. 

More soon.
 
Anne M. Black
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In a message dated 11/26/2008 9:52:23 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Norbert, Bernd, Harald, List,

Thank you very much for the info about "Grein 004/Tenere 001/Tafa".
I indeed read that somewhere sometimes but I have not my archives on hand 
here in France (BM Met. Catalog (Grady) indeed currently gives most of the 
meteorite synonyms).

Bernd said:

"Grein 004" as well as "Tenere 001" are just synonyms for the
Tafassasset Freiburg mass, a single stone weighing 3610 grams.
It's no pairing.

Bernd, Norbert, does that mean that the tkw for Tafassasset is then 110 kg 
(Franch find) + 3.61 kg ("Grein 004") = 113.61 kg ? (thus [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
and 
not [EMAIL PROTECTED] kg as in "A to Z" ?).
Met. Bull. indeed reports the tkw as 114 kg (approx), which well fits the 
figure.

The official type so far is CR-an (Met. Bull.), or PAUNGR ("A to Z"). Do 
you agree ?
I know that both meteorites were studied separately and that the real type 
could not be defined.

Note that Weir (his web site) reports, for T-1 (= Tenere 001), a total 
weight of exactly 3.636 kg, also that is "brachinite-related" and that Tafa 
itself (separately listed by Weir but said being paired with T-1) is a 
"PAUNGR, possibly CR-related".
More recent studies seem to still question that CR-relation...

I understand the real type is yet to be defined and that the tkw is close 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] kg, more specifically [EMAIL PROTECTED] kg

Norbert, do you think Prof Otto knows more on that or whether they continue 
to study this meteorite in Freiburg ?

And Bernd, what you mean by "it's no pairing" ? Everybody seems to agree so 
far that the "Freiburg mass" is also Tafa. (?)

All my best,

Zelimir


A 12:19 26/11/2008 +0100, vous avez écrit :
>Hi Zelimir,
>
>I don't know for NWA 3144, but "Grein 004" is a synonym for Tafassasset -
>I'm pretty sure of that. "Grein 004" was a working name used for the smaller
>mass which was later named as the Tafassasset "Freiburg mass", classified
>and studied by my friend Dr. Otto in Freiburg. You might want to contact
>Juergen Otto in this matter, just to make sure - he can be reached at
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Hope this helps...
>
>All the best,
>Norbert
>

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