Dear Zelimir, Yes, the "Freiburg mass" surely is Tafassasset - no doubt about that. And Dr. Otto won't do any further work on it because he emerited from Freiburg University in the meantime. But if you like to ask him for details about the Freiburg mass I'm sure he is willing to provide you with a wealth of information :-)
Best, Norbert PS: You are absolutely correct about the TKW of Tafassasset - the original MetBull includes both, the Freiburg mass, and the additional masses that were studies in France. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Zelimir Gabelica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. November 2008 17:51 An: [email protected] Cc: Norbert Classen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zelimir Gabelica Betreff: Grein 004/Tafassasset Hi Norbert, Bernd, Harald, List, Thank you very much for the info about "Grein 004/Tenere 001/Tafa". I indeed read that somewhere sometimes but I have not my archives on hand here in France (BM Met. Catalog (Grady) indeed currently gives most of the meteorite synonyms). Bernd said: "Grein 004" as well as "Tenere 001" are just synonyms for the Tafassasset Freiburg mass, a single stone weighing 3610 grams. It's no pairing. Bernd, Norbert, does that mean that the tkw for Tafassasset is then 110 kg (Franch find) + 3.61 kg ("Grein 004") = 113.61 kg ? (thus [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not [EMAIL PROTECTED] kg as in "A to Z" ?). Met. Bull. indeed reports the tkw as 114 kg (approx), which well fits the figure. The official type so far is CR-an (Met. Bull.), or PAUNGR ("A to Z"). Do you agree ? I know that both meteorites were studied separately and that the real type could not be defined. Note that Weir (his web site) reports, for T-1 (= Tenere 001), a total weight of exactly 3.636 kg, also that is "brachinite-related" and that Tafa itself (separately listed by Weir but said being paired with T-1) is a "PAUNGR, possibly CR-related". More recent studies seem to still question that CR-relation... I understand the real type is yet to be defined and that the tkw is close to [EMAIL PROTECTED] kg, more specifically [EMAIL PROTECTED] kg Norbert, do you think Prof Otto knows more on that or whether they continue to study this meteorite in Freiburg ? And Bernd, what you mean by "it's no pairing" ? Everybody seems to agree so far that the "Freiburg mass" is also Tafa. (?) All my best, Zelimir A 12:19 26/11/2008 +0100, vous avez écrit : >Hi Zelimir, > >I don't know for NWA 3144, but "Grein 004" is a synonym for Tafassasset >- I'm pretty sure of that. "Grein 004" was a working name used for the >smaller mass which was later named as the Tafassasset "Freiburg mass", >classified and studied by my friend Dr. Otto in Freiburg. You might >want to contact Juergen Otto in this matter, just to make sure - he can >be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Hope this helps... > >All the best, >Norbert > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >Hi List, > >Heredown is a message of Roger Warin (Belgium) that he apparently can >not send through his server. > >I have my own question: >does anybody know the official status of meteorite "Grein 004" ? (not >in Met. Bull.) > >Thanks! > >Zelimir >---------------------- > >Hello List, > >I have put some pics of NWA 3144 (CV3) thin sections on our local site. >See here: >http://www.agab.be/meteorites/Thin/thin.html > >Met. Bull. reports that this meteorite (found or purchased by the >Hupés) still has a provisional status. >I'd be glad to learn more about this meteorite. >Could someone provide some data (if any) or send further comments on >its status ? >Thanks and all the best, > >Roger. > > > >Prof. Zelimir Gabelica >Université de Haute Alsace >ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, >3, Rue A. Werner, >F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France >Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 >Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 > >______________________________________________ >http://www.meteoritecentral.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >[email protected] >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 ______________________________________________ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
