Hello Mike and Jeff,
This reminds me of when (Amgala) Oum Dreyga was brought to being. Our team
(Moroccan hunters and us) received the first of the stones to be recovered
and submitted the type sample for classification and "Amgala" as the name.
As more stones were recovered, "Amgala" was the recognized/used name
(amongst collectors and some scientists). As some time went by, more, larger
material was found in Oum Dreyga (approximately SSW from Amgala) and in
between from Amgala.
Some months after we sent in the classification, another team from France
submitted a type sample and asked for the name, "Oum Dreyga", from which the
name was officially recognized and "Amgala" became a synonym of it. I
personally think that the area from which the first material was collected
should be the assigned name (most likely the stones started falling here),
but perhaps the area from which the largest stones were recovered was
preferred by the committee.
A fun lesson in naming, none the less!
Best regards,
Greg
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----- Original Message -----
From: "tett" <[email protected]>
To: "Jeff Grossman" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Meteorite-list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name the new Canadian fall
Thanks Jeff for the insightful response.
I suppose it will be 6+ months until we know and at least I have sown the
seed for cool.
I still remember the sad time when Bilanga-Yanga was shortened to Bilanga.
Cheers!,
Mike Tettenborn
Jeff Grossman wrote:
The final selection of a name rests with the Nomenclature Committee.
They have guidelines about what characterizes a proper meteorite name
(and contrary to popular belief, these do not say anything about post
offices). However, there are no rules at all regarding who may propose a
name for a new meteorite.
Normally, the group that submits the initial characterization of the
meteorite to the NomCom makes a suggestion about what the name should be.
Surprisingly, there have been only a few cases where multiple suggestions
have been made by different groups. A recent example was Carancas (vs.
Desaguadero). I don't know how the committee would react to suggestions
coming out of the community at large. I think they would probably give
deference to the finder and/or initial-characterization team, unless a
counter-suggestion was backed by a better reason than "too John Waynish"
or "no distinct Canadian sound."
But if I was doing the initial description of this meteorite, I would be
thinking as you are. If I could pick from multiple names of nearby
geographic features and some are boring and some are cool, I'd go for
cool; if Buzzard Coulee was one of my choices, it would be a no-brainer
(except that maybe folks from Saskatchewan would not want a name with the
initials B.C.).
Jeff
tett wrote:
Jeff and List,
Wondering who has final authority in naming new meteorites? I know
there are some general guidelines (nearest post office or town or
landmark) but who has final say? Will the peopel from U of Calgary be
allowed input? Can the met list opinion influence the final name?
I am asking these questions in hopes of influencing the final name of
the new Canadian fall. It has been rerefed to as Lone Rock (too John
Waynish for a Canadian stone), Marsden (Not bad but no distinct Canadian
sound), Lloydminster (Getting better) and Buzzard Coulee (Now we are
talking!)
Looking at the map there are some other cool names close by such as
Unwin, Zumbro and Manitou Lake. Manitou being the Ojibwey name for the
Great Spirit or spirits.
Well, if it counts, my vote would be for Buzzard Coulee.
Cheers,
Mike Tettenborn,
Owen Sound, Ontario
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