Hi Jeff, Stefan & All,

I know that some scientists even think that oxidized CVs and CKs should be considered as one single group of meteorites, and pour Tanezrouft 057 that was classified C4 is an example as some parts of appear to be CV and some other ones CK, according to the analyses that have been processed. TNZ 057 is still under study and we hope that something will come out one of these days but there was already an abstract written by Dr Bertrand Devouard (UBP - Clermont-Ferrand - France) that you can find on our website at: http://info.meteoriteshow.free.fr/Archives-Meteoriteshow/angl/Tnz057/abstract-Tan057-B.Devouard.pdf.

But anyway and even if Stefan's meteorite is obviously different from TNZ 057, i believe that there is a possibility that part of it can be CV and the other part CK (but both of them can be CV as well...). The best is to have it analyzed.

Kind regards

Frederic Beroud
http://www.meteoriteshow.com
IMCA #2491

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Kuyken" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stefan's New Find


Hi Stefan and all,

I was thinking about this last night and was wondering if anyone knows of a Carbonaceous chondrite that has ever been classified as a combination? (i.e. CV/CK or CB/CH etc.)

Or maybe a paper written on the topic?

Cheers,

Jeff



----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Ralew" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stefan's New Find


Hello Together,

many thanks for the all the interesting answers to my email. Yes, it could be a CK/CV - if I look at Marcins photos of his NWA 4838, the pieces are actually very similar, although certainly not the same meteorite. Here are the two photos side by side:
http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/two-cc.jpg

The dark lithology could be a melted version of the light-grey lithology. But it is somewhat strange that the dark lithology has apparent more free iron metal than the light-grey area. I will of course keep the list informed about the final classification. The stone is currently under examination by Dr. Ansgar Greshake. Whatever it is, it is simply a strange thing, and a great surprise indeed.

Best wishes,
Stefan


www.chladnis-heirs.com




----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:59 PM
Subject: [english 90%] [meteorite-list] Stefan's New Find


Hello Fred, Stefan and List,

"The darker side looks like a CV3, but the fair grey one?"

The uncut main mass: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/carb-ungesch.jpg
The cut surface: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/carb.jpg

Ever since Stefan first showed me this unique specimen in November 2008,
I've been wondering and brooding what this might be. My very first idea was that this might be a CK-like chondrite, then I thought it might also be some kind of E-chondrite and from there, it was just another (hypothetical) hop
to the assumption that this could be a Kakangari-like chondrite (???)

What do you think?

Bernd

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