No
I am talking about Yves Rocard, also father of Michel Rocard, Prime minister in
France several years. Not a charlatan !

I really don't like your mocking comments ! To say the least !

I have been many years on a SERIOUS alchemical forum. Not talking about some stupid
way to change lead into gold and other such legends stuck to alchemy,
which I see as a proto chemistry... BUT regretting that modern chemistry has "forgotten"
parts of what alchemy had searched, notably empiric knowledge etc... !
The philosophical "stone"... well it is "just and only" philosophical, that's what real alchemy is about.

I am considered as a serious "scientist"... certainly more than the famous anesthesiologist
Dr. Reuben, who just showed the dark side of modern science:
(http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/11/health/research/11pain.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=Reuben&st=cse)

If you think he is the only one... think twice :)
And you have same in most other sciences, including agronomy and environmental studies that
I know most !

No, real alchemy was not any more the major science at Newton's time... ! get informed. Go to the Vatican, which took all of the alchemical texts from the castle from Heidelberg
after WW2... or to Scotland...

Last but not least: if you had read my post in its entirety... you wouldn't talk like this,
unless... ??!

Enjoy your evening

Michael B, France


----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Garrison" <cyna...@charter.net>
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Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:48 PM
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:21:25 +0100, you wrote:

Yves Rocard was simply saying that each and every human has an infinite
amount of magnetite ?
(can't remember) or something alike at both our wrists.
This amount varies greatly between individuals, resulting in better
capabilities for some
to find water sources etc...
When using a rod, especially hazelnut, an arch is produced with an intensity
related to the amount
or depth of the water.

Ah, I see the source of the confusion here.  You mean midiclorians, not
magnetite.  And Yoda, not Yves.  Here's a quote from that paper:

"Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well
you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life
creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between
you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the
ship."


How many people know that Newton (and many other famous scientists) did
serious alchemical
studies and writings in "secrecy", to not tarnish their reputation... ?

Very few people know that, given the fact that alchemy WAS the mainstream
science at the time-- there was nothing to hide. Given the scientific knowledge
at the time, searching for the philosopher's stone was no less reasonable or
credible a scientific pursuit than any other (but which, in the end, turned out
to be based on an inaccurate model of the basis of matter.)  Chemestry as we
know it hadn't been invented yet. Modern chemestry is what is left of alchemy
after many ideas in alchemy have been disproven (and some proven).
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