Hi Mike ,
If Steve gets to call his meteorite a Dam Hammer ,do I get to call mine a Lake Hammer? The lake bed is now under 8-10' of water from all the rain.

http://www.nevadameteorites.com/id33.htm

Sonny


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Blood <mlbl...@cox.net>
To: cyna...@charter.net; Meteorite List <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dam Hammer






Darreb wrote:" at what
point in the grade from dirt to concrete does the artificially-built
dam
become
"artificial enough" to be concidered a hammerable object? When does
the bloom
become Michael's tomato?"

Hi Darren (and all),
       I have a very precise response: The moment
It matters to someone.
---
       This issue is a sad one to me. I recently lost a
Good friend over it - at least I think it was over this
Issue, I have a hard time telling because he emailed
Me he disapproved of my business practices and
didn't want to talk to me, and this was the topic
Under discussion at the time. So, I can only assume
It is over this very issue.
--
       It's real simple folks: if it has meaning for you,
Great, if it doesn't have meaning for you, no problem.

The problem comes when people tell others what
SHOULD be considered this or that and whether
It SHOULD cost more or not, etc. If it costs more
Than it is worth to you, don't buy it. You do not have
To make up a scenario in your head about the dealer
Trying to rip you off.

       I like hammers. Not everything another person
Has called a hammer seemed like a hammer to me and
Some things that are a hammer to me are not a hammer
To others.

       To me, a "hammer" is a fall wherein one or more
Individual meteorites strikes a man made artifact, animal
Or human. Not just the one, two or more stones in that
Fall that strike things (those are "hammer stones") - but
The entire fall.

       Many will see it this way - others obviously see it
As only those individual meteorites that struck the
Artifact/animal/person. I have never met a hammer collector
That did not value the specific "hammer stone(s)" more than
Other individuals in that fall, but there are many falls wherein
The hammer stone was "lost." ie: Chiang-Khan  where many
Stones landed in a boat on the river. The fisherman, feeling
They were "evil" threw them overboard. A hammer collector
Can get one of the other individuals of that fall, but not one
Of the stones that fell into the boat (I only know of 2 falls that
Involve landing on a boat).

       Anyway, this could go on forever. Embrace what has meaning
For you. Do not embrace what does not hold meaning for you -
But it would be nice if you didn't rain on the parade others are
Enjoying.
       Best wishes, Michael


From: Darren Garrison <cyna...@charter.net>
Reply-To: <cyna...@charter.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:33:49 -0500
To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dam Hammer

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:24:45 -0700, you wrote:

Suppose a meteorite fragment struck the Hoover Dam and was recovered?
Would that be considered a hammer or no?

See, that's the problem with a nebulous term. There are lots of ways
to build
a
dam-- pile up dirt, use field stones (with some sort of
sealant/mortar in the
gaps), use sand bags, use bricks, use logs (again, with a sealant),
use poured
concrete...

Let's say, for the sake of argument, hitting a poured concrete dam
(like the
Hoover) DOES make a hammer-- but hitting an earthen dam DOES NOT make
a
hammer.
Okay, that has established upper and lower limits of hammerdom-- but
at what
point in the grade from dirt to concrete does the artificially-built
dam
become
"artificial enough" to be concidered a hammerable object? When does
the bloom
become Michael's tomato?
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