Mike, Sorry list. Bob Haag was my partner in Peru. Unlike you he is a very charismatic and motivational Man. He never complains about anything. You could learn a lot from a man like Bob. ( and many others) You act more like a pathological Narcissist than a motivator. I have never felt welcome in your precious room. That is why I never bought anything there. And you have already told me you did not want to sell to me anymore. Go figure that one out? HELLO. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza IMCA 5829 Meteoritemax
---- Michael Farmer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Carl, this is out of control. > you were never in Peru for Carancas fall, please admit that to the list. > Bob Haag can prove me right, as I spoke to him and he told me all about it. > Did you go to Carancas with Bob? NO, so please stop telling us all about what > went on there as you really have no clue actually. > Thanks > I am not mud-slinging, I am showing what you are doing and it is wrong. > You are not welcome in my room at the Tucson show. > You just insulted Anne minutes ago, now you try to take it back. > Just stop. > Michael Farmer > > > --- On Fri, 7/17/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter Carl > > Esparza > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: [email protected], [email protected], > > [email protected] > > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 1:02 PM > > WOW, > > I will take my chances with Anne and IMCA. Unlike yourself, > > Anne is one of the honorable list members. She knows me well > > enough to know that I did not intentionally violate any > > rules. We all are entitled to an opinion and you and I seem > > to disagree often. I don't know why this is on list though. > > Here you go again mud slinging. As I recall it was you that > > acused me of misrepresenting Carancas not the other way > > around. I simply pointed out that those nice folks in Peru > > invited our team to lunch while you say they threatened your > > life. Well Mike we all write our own epitaph and yours is > > well known. This may be a good episode for that wonderful > > show, "Meteorite Men"? OUCH ! Sorry I could not resist. . > > Carl -- > > Carl or Debbie Esparza > > IMCA 5829 > > Meteoritemax > > > > > > ---- [email protected] > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > WOW > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you say EX-IMCA member. > > > > > > > > > > > > Carl, you were rejected because of things like calling > > me a "psycho" and worse names. > > > > > > The list archives are full of bad things you have said > > about me. Do you honestly think I would hunt with you > > after the things you have said about me regarding Carancas? > > > > > > > > Man, my day is getting brighter from the sheer idiocy > > of this. > > > > > > Michael Farmer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > To: [email protected], > > [email protected], > > [email protected] > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:26:49 AM GMT -07:00 > > U.S. Mountain Time (Arizona) > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a > > meteorite hunter Carl Esparza > > > > > > Anne, > > > It is hard to believe that you would put this on the > > list. > > > Respectfully , this is not Jack's find. Sure Jack can > > claim ownership of his finds and nobody is going to take > > them away from him but give us all a break here. This is a > > fall that was observed by dozens of people and there are > > dozens of us out looking for evidence of it. I don't think > > this hit Jack on the head. I think he also had to figure > > this out. Why is he any better than the rest of us???? I > > simply asked what Mike drives as verification but obviously > > I had already figured out the general area. Cat Mountain was > > also this big secret that I had to do a lot of work to find > > out where it was. I then shared this info with others and it > > resulted in the discovery of Snyder Hill while they were > > looking. This is all good and if you don't agree I am sorry > > but How can you say that this is Jack's find???? That is > > ridiculous! > > > I did not post the location but I did ask Mike if I > > could help earlier and he rejected me. This would have made > > this location confidential. Now I'm not so sure? And Jack > > never personally even bothered to respond to my list posts > > and requests to help. As you know I offered to rescue these > > critters before they drown in the rains. They said no. > > > I don't know what material is left to be found but > > hopefully now more will be found before they do drown. Again > > this is all good. > > > PS what is your call on the leak of a private email > > your Honor? > > > -- > > > Carl or Debbie Esparza > > > IMCA 5829 > > > Meteoritemax > > > > > > > > > ---- [email protected] > > wrote: > > > > No, Mike, > > > > > > > > The IMCA does not condone this type of behavior. > > IMCA members are expected > > > > to behave in a professional and ethical manner. > > Please go read our code of > > > > Ethics, on the IMCA website, _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) . > > > > > > > > It is Jack Schaeder's discovery, and Jack's > > wishes should be respected. > > > > > > > > But dreams of new meteorites will mislead people. > > > > > > Surely you know that. > > > > > > > > Anne M. Black > > > > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > > > > [email protected]_ > > (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > > > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > > > > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/17/2009 10:57:13 AM Mountain > > Daylight Time, > > > > [email protected] > > writes: > > > > Hello list, I was forwarded an email that Carl > > Esparza, proud IMCA member, > > > > sent to some other Arizona residents. > > > > > > > > > > > > IMCA, do you approve of your members, supposedly > > the people of the highest > > > > integrity he, he,he he, stooping to spying on > > other people? Is there any > > > > action that can be taken on this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > This shows how pitiful some of these people are, > > too lazy to do their own > > > > homework, and so deceitful that they will resort > > to pitiful spying on other > > > > list members rather than do their homework. > > > > > > > > This type of crap is EXACTLY why you are not > > welcome. > > > > > > > > Take this hint, learn how to hunt meteorites and > > stop trying to worm your > > > > way in. It takes work to find a meteorite, not > > scams. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Hello, Would any of you fellow Arizonians share > > with me off-List what kind > > > > of vehicle Mike Farmer drives. Hint- I have been > > hunting the Benson area > > > > Fall and don't know what kind or color of cars to > > look for. I promise to share > > > > results if any. Thank you. > > > > Carl Esparza > > > > IMCA 5829 > > > > Meteoritemax" > > > > **************Can love help you live longer? Find > > out now. > > > > (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu > > > > > > slove00000001) > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

