Eric and John,
Hi Eric, thanks for the information that you gave on Michael Casper's email
and John you are right, I think it's great that Eric still had that
information after all these years. I keep learning more and more about the
Kem Kem story. I never met Michael Casper, but I've learned more about him
over the past three days than I ever knew and it has sparked interest in my
ebay Kem Kem auction since over 100 people have looked at the auction over
the past few days..
Thanks again,
Brian
IMCA #6387
searchingforfun is my ebay User Id
Message: 12
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:23:02 -0700
From: John Gwilliam <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem Kem
To: Eric Twelker
<[email protected]>,[email protected]
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Thanks to Eric for saving 10 year old e-correspondence! It's pretty
obvious to me that this is a prime example of how the "mix-up" of the
African desert material got started. Just my opinion though.
John Gwilliam
At 02:35 PM 8/14/2009, Eric Twelker wrote:
FWIW
Eric Twelker
Begin forwarded message:
Resent-From: [email protected]
From: "Michael Casper" <[email protected]>
Date: September 14, 1999 7:37:25 AM GMT-08:00
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: * SALE * KEN KEN, DAHARA, MOROCCO * SALE
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
LIVE FROM DENVER!
We just secured a load (75KG) of a new find!
Ken Ken, Dahara, Morocco
Found August 1999
4 different meteorites found within 10km
This is a brand new find and is 4 different types. Looks like
H 5 and L 6 or maybe BETTER! This load was foun over several
weeks of searching by aproximately 500 folks of "the berber tribe".j
Here is the deal! I will sell no less than 2.5 KG @ $.40 per gram.
That is $1000.00 MINIMUM ORDER. I will ship overnight if payment
is MC/VISA.
Included in each shipment will be some of each of 4 different
meteorites.
Michael
Casper Meteorites, Inc.
P. O. Drawer J
Ithaca, New York 14851
USA
607-257-5349 (phone)
607-266-7904 (fax)
email: [email protected]
<http://www.meteorites.com>
Jeff Grossman <[email protected]> a ??crit??:
The Kem Kem meteorites from Casper were a trigger for the NomCom
approving the NWA designation, which was my coinage in January 2000.
But to really understand the history, you need to go back a few
years earlier, to El Hammami (aka Hamada du Draa), which was the
first case for which the NomCom became aware that meteorites were
being transported and sold in this region. With this history, plus
a series of inquiries from other dealers about the Kem Kem
meteorites, compounded by our inability to learn many details about
those meteorites from Casper, we needed to take action of some kind.
We decided on a generic term, Northwest Africa, that could be
applied as a "tracking" label to all stones, even ones that had not
been classified, so that individual meteorites would not be divided
and sold under multiple names. We also had no ability to
investigate multiple vague or anonymous claims about meteorite
provenance in the region. Thus it was decided that all of these
meteorites would be named NWA, even those that had been classified.
I'm not sure what ever happened to the Kem Kems that triggered the
whole thing. Since I don't think Casper ever numbered them, there
were no synonyms to publish, assuming they eventually became NWAs.
jeff
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:55:00 -0500
From: "Brian Cox" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem-Kem, the original "GENERIC" name
for NWAs, Northwest African meteorites
To: <[email protected]>
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Hi Jeff,
Thank you very much for your explanation of Kem Kem and the NomCom approving
the NWA designation because of all the confusion and the situation of all
the meteorites coming out of the region.
Thank you for mentioning that you and NomCom decided on "A Generic Term"
Northwest Africa, that could be applied as a "Tracking" label to all stones.
I really appreciate your explanation.
All the best!
Brian
IMCA # 6387
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:18:03 -0500
From: "Brian Cox" <[email protected]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Kem-Kem, the original "GENERIC" name for
NWAs, Northwest African meteorites
To: <[email protected]>
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Jeff,
Thanks again for your time and for bringing more light to the subject of the
origination of the names, NWA and Kem Kem. You mentioned about where the Kem
Kems went to and I forgot to mention that I have a piece of Kem Kem that I
purchased back when Planet Brey meteorites got specimens of Kem Kem and I
have it on ebay and if you want to have a look at it with the Original COA
that says Kem Kem and the information on the card, here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/KEM-KEM-Meteorite-19-7g-IMCA-COA-Unclass-Probably-H5_W0QQitemZ270440268847QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH
I added in the description that since it's technically Unclassified and
probably an H5.
Thanks again for your help and your wonderful and thorough explanation.
Brian Cox
IMCA # 6387
Searchingforfun is my ebay User ID
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