>>That is just hogwash in my opinion---the Drake Equation proves that
life 
>>MUST exist elsewhere.

Not quite - Actually most sensible values for the drake equation (and
subsequent improved variants) come up with surprisingly low values,
given the scale and size of the universe! In fact it's quite easy to get
values of 1! 

yes Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but evidence of
absence is evidence of absence! If we search and find no other life in
our own solar system, it lowers the odds somewhat, since the earth is so
perfect for life, yet the similar sized planets that are very nearby are
totally sterile (it seems so far).


Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Becky
and Kirk
Sent: 24 August 2009 22:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

That is just hogwash in my opinion---the Drake Equation proves that life

MUST exist elsewhere.
Even the SETI scientists agree that LIFE is probably abundant!
Absence of Evidence is NOT Evidence of Absence!!
Kirk......
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Whitmer" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:17 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted


> Eric:
>
> It's my belief that We Are Alone!  There's nobody out there.  Life and

> intelligence is a singularity, a miracle, call it what you will, it
only 
> happened once, here on good old Planet Earth. We are the Seed that
will 
> spread throughout the Universe by Space Migration.  It's our manifest 
> destiny and a matter of survival.  Nobody knows how or why it
happened, it 
> just did. It was either God or chance, take your pick.  There are
those 
> who claim otherwise, but they have yet to provide even the thinnest
shred 
> of evidence.  Those who make extraordinary claims must provide some 
> extraordinary evidence to back it up.  And they never do! Not one
person 
> abducted by ETs has ever grabbed  an alien cellphone or anything else
to 
> prove they were aboard an intergalactic space ship.
>
> The argument for aliens goes something like this: "Well there's
billions 
> and billions of galaxies, one of them has to harbor life. It just has
to! 
> You know,   a billion monkeys typing for a billion years, and one of
them 
> writes a Shakespearean Sonnet or the Book of Genesis, whatever. I
think 
> they will just type gibberish for eternity. Life doesn't just pop up
all 
> over the place. It can never be created in the laboratory. It's
impossible 
> to make live stuff out of dead stuff! (Except for that one time.)
>
> This argument puts a lot of faith in Chance and the Laws of
Probability. 
> Might as well say Yahweh or Brahma did it.  Evolution guided by chance
and 
> probability, how is that any different from chaos and total
randomness?
>
> And why do the aliens always appear in trailer parks and never at
Houston 
> Control, NAU,  or the JPL?
>
> Now if I could see one bit of hard evidence, I would change my mind in
a 
> minute.
>
> Just my dos pesos,
>
> Phil Whitmer
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