Hi Aziz,

thanks for letting me know. I just got it before I read the post here. It's from one of the list members and I just emailed him to ask if he really sent it. I'm wondering if it's either someone getting our emails from the Meteorite list or facebook. It said just what yours said: xxxxxxxxxxxxx thinks you will really like this YOuTube video. Check it out in blue and I didn't click on it.

Thanks,

Brian
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  2. Duking it out at the AGU (E.P. Grondine)
  3. Grimsby Classified H5 (Mike Bandli)
  4. Paris, France CM Meteorite (Mike Bandli)
  5. Re: Grimsby Classified H5 (Linton Rohr)
  6. Re: Paris, France CM Meteorite (Ted Bunch)
  7. Re: Grimsby Classified H5 (Mike Bandli)
  8. Fall in Canada in 1984-85 near Devon, AB? (Greg Stanley)
  9. Re: Paris, France CM Meteorite (Phil Morgan)
 10. Re: Grimsby Classified H5 (Linton Rohr)
 11. Celebrated Moon Rocks (Ron Baalke)
 12. Re: Paris, France CM Meteorite (Mike Bandli)
 13. be carful (Abdelaziz Alhyane)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:02:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Mark Bowling <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over Southern AZ
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hey Larry,
I once moved from Tucson to Elko, till I found out that the alternate spelling of Elko was COLD...

I'll get it reported as Gracie suggested. I'm hoping that some shoppers saw it. The malls and stores are quite active at that time.
Mark

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over Southern AZ
To: "Mark Bowling" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 9:24 AM
Saw nothing from Tucson, but have not
spent much time outside since it has
been cloudy and (relatively) cold (at least for those of us
in Tucson, and
waiting to get all of the responses from places that are
really cold).

Larry

> Hey all,
>
> My cousin sent me a message in Facebook this morning
(see below).? Has
> anybody else seen this or any reported
sightings?? Surely there were a lot
> of folks out shopping or enjoying the evening...
>
> Mark B.
> Vail, AZ
>
>
> "the other night about 6pm heading back to tucson i
was in eloy and saw a
> falling star, being cloudy it made the clouds glow for
a bit and the tail
> sparkled. it had to land near the tortillitas or in
catalina but it made a
> boom sound i had my window down. it was the coolest i
ever seen and i seen
> many out on the road."
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:13:28 -0800 (PST)
From: "E.P. Grondine" <[email protected]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Duking it out at the AGU
To: [email protected]
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Hi -

While the banks of a river that floods are not a good place to get reliably dated mega-fauna DNA samples:

http://www.canada.com/technology/MAMMOTH+DISCOVERY/2340164/story.html

There is little doubt that man was hunting mega-fauna when he arrived in the Americas, say about 45,000 BCE. And there can be little doubt that Clovis technology greatly increased the efficiency of that hunting.

We're still left with the problem of sudden quarry abandonment, and a sudden drop in mega-fauna populations. Also with the problem of the causes of some of the First Peoples' memories of comet impact.

The question of the effects of any impacts on the draining of Lake Agassiz have not been examined yet.

The lack of funding for those researching this is appaling.

Anyone who would like a copy of the cast of the Trempealeau Petroglyph can contact me off list. While it appears to show cometary impact, unfortunately since the site was lost we do not know if it was from the YD impacts, or the Rio Cuarto impacts, or another set of impacts.

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas







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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:41:52 -0800
From: "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <09c9f5af2a8a45968fdf33dafe8b2...@bandli1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

It is official:

http://tinyurl.com/yg8ny9g

-----------------------------------
Mike Bandli
Historic Meteorites
www.HistoricMeteorites.com
IMCA?#5765
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:50:50 -0800
From: "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <a58be0895cb44636a2c7fa4edb996...@bandli1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite:

http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge

Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified
with no locality.

-----------------------------------
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Historic Meteorites
www.HistoricMeteorites.com
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:00:02 -0800
From: "Linton Rohr" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
To: "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <e0ecd3ff187a438cbf0bd3c2ee9ea...@d190th71>
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reply-type=original

Cool. Thanks Mike.
So it's still a relatively low TKW, at 215g (I've always assumed "Mass" and
TKW to be equivalent).
One thing I don't understand, though. How can Michael Farmer be listed as
the main mass holder already, with the Canadian export permit requirements? ( Not that I mind.) Has it been long enough already for an export permit to be issued? Or is the Met Bull just assuming that it will be eventually? It's
only been a couple months. I'm just thinking of the export delay with
Buzzard Coulee, which I'd love to see available in Tucson, by the way.
Linton


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:41 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5


It is official:

http://tinyurl.com/yg8ny9g

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:23:58 -0700
From: Ted Bunch <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
To: Mike Bandli <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <c75678ee.fd46%[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California
desert, but not LA.

Ted



On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]> wrote:

An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite:

http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge

Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified
with no locality.

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:29:41 -0800
From: "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
To: "'Linton Rohr'" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <777e76092a2d444193fb01559b7a6...@bandli1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Linton,

Though it lists Michael Farmer as the holder, all of the stones, including
ours, are being held in Canada. No export permits will be applied for (that
I know of). With the low total recovered weight, unprecedented recovery
efforts, and it being the most documented fireball in history, we don't see
any scenario of them ever leaving Canada. It is our hope that our stone
eventually finds its way into a Canadian museum or institution.

-----------------------------------
Mike Bandli
Historic Meteorites
www.HistoricMeteorites.com
IMCA?#5765
-----------------------------------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: Linton Rohr [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:00 PM
To: Mike Bandli
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5

Cool. Thanks Mike.
So it's still a relatively low TKW, at 215g (I've always assumed "Mass" and
TKW to be equivalent).
One thing I don't understand, though. How can Michael Farmer be listed as
the main mass holder already, with the Canadian export permit requirements? ( Not that I mind.) Has it been long enough already for an export permit to be issued? Or is the Met Bull just assuming that it will be eventually? It's

only been a couple months. I'm just thinking of the export delay with
Buzzard Coulee, which I'd love to see available in Tucson, by the way.
Linton


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:41 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5


It is official:

http://tinyurl.com/yg8ny9g

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:30:35 -0800
From: Greg Stanley <[email protected]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fall in Canada in 1984-85 near Devon, AB?
To: <[email protected]>, Mike <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Hi List:

Wow - that was fast, hope to see it at Tucson.

I have a question regarding a Canadian meteorite fall that a friend of mine witnessed back in 1984 or 85.? It was during a cold evening about 20 miles West of Devon, AB when he and a group of his friends noticed that suddenly it became as bright as day.? Then right above them a red/orange fireball (which sounded like a jet engine) flew eastward.? They watched it fly towards the horizon as pieced broke off.? The next day he read in the Edmonton Sun newspaper that the meteorite struck and damaged a car, I believe owned by a women.

If anyone on the list in Canada or anyone knows what this fall could be, I would like to know.? I have researched it on the bulletin and the web and can't find it.? Being a hammer, I think it would be documented.

Thanks... and happy holidays, and congratulations to Mike Farmer for his Grimsby find.

Greg S.

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To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:00:02 -0800
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5

Cool. Thanks Mike.
So it's still a relatively low TKW, at 215g (I've always assumed "Mass" and
TKW to be equivalent).
One thing I don't understand, though. How can Michael Farmer be listed as
the main mass holder already, with the Canadian export permit requirements? ( Not that I mind.) Has it been long enough already for an export permit to be issued? Or is the Met Bull just assuming that it will be eventually? It's
only been a couple months. I'm just thinking of the export delay with
Buzzard Coulee, which I'd love to see available in Tucson, by the way.
Linton


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Bandli"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:41 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5


It is official:

http://tinyurl.com/yg8ny9g

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:46:53 -0700
From: Phil Morgan <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
To: Ted Bunch <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
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And other like Lafayette are quite vague as well.  But are there
others that don't even have a home country?

Phil

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ted Bunch <[email protected]> wrote:
Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California
desert, but not LA.

Ted



On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]> wrote:

An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite:

http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge

Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified
with no locality.

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:52:55 -0800
From: "Linton Rohr" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
To: "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <cb34f1f7e38e44b1aebb9d5dcc8f0...@d190th71>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Ah. Thanks for the enlightenment, Mike. That's quite commendable.
I would like to think more will be found, but the prospects don't look good,
considering the effort that's already been made.
Linton

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]>
To: "'Linton Rohr'" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5


Hi Linton,

Though it lists Michael Farmer as the holder, all of the stones, including
ours, are being held in Canada. No export permits will be applied for (that
I know of). With the low total recovered weight, unprecedented recovery
efforts, and it being the most documented fireball in history, we don't see
any scenario of them ever leaving Canada. It is our hope that our stone
eventually finds its way into a Canadian museum or institution.

-----------------------------------
Mike Bandli
Historic Meteorites
www.HistoricMeteorites.com
IMCA #5765
-----------------------------------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: Linton Rohr [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:00 PM
To: Mike Bandli
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5

Cool. Thanks Mike.
So it's still a relatively low TKW, at 215g (I've always assumed "Mass" and
TKW to be equivalent).
One thing I don't understand, though. How can Michael Farmer be listed as
the main mass holder already, with the Canadian export permit requirements? ( Not that I mind.) Has it been long enough already for an export permit to be issued? Or is the Met Bull just assuming that it will be eventually? It's

only been a couple months. I'm just thinking of the export delay with
Buzzard Coulee, which I'd love to see available in Tucson, by the way.
Linton


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:41 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5


It is official:

http://tinyurl.com/yg8ny9g

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:06:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Ron Baalke <[email protected]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Celebrated Moon Rocks
To: [email protected] (Meteorite Mailing List)
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http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Dec09/Apollo-lunar-samples.html

Celebrated Moon Rocks
Planetary Science Research Discoveries
December 21, 2009

--- Overview and status of the Apollo lunar collection: A unique, but
limited, resource of extraterrestrial material.

Written by Linda M. V. Martel
Hawaii Institute of Geophysics and Planetology

"The Need for Lunar Samples and Simulants: Where Engineering and
Science Meet" sums up one of the sessions attracting attention at the
annual meeting of the Lunar Exploration Analysis Group (LEAG), held
November 16-19, 2009 in Houston, Texas. Speakers addressed the question
of how the Apollo lunar samples can be used to facilitate NASA's return
to the Moon while preserving the collection for scientific
investigation. Here is a summary of the LEAG presentations of Dr. Gary
Lofgren, Lunar Curator at the NASA Johnson Space Center in Houston,
Texas, and Dr. Meenakshi (Mini) Wadhwa, Professor at Arizona State
University and Chair of NASA's advisory committee called CAPTEM
(Curation and Analysis Planning Team for Extraterrestrial Materials).
Lofgren gave a status report of the collection of rocks and regolith
returned to Earth by the Apollo astronauts from six different landing
sites on the Moon in 1969-1972. Wadhwa explained the role of CAPTEM in
lunar sample allocation.

References:

   * Lunar Exploration Analysis Group (LEAG) Annual Meeting Agenda

<http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/leag2009/presentations/index.shtml>,
     November 16-19, 2009.
   * Lunar Sample Compendium <
     http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/compendium.cfm>.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Collection of Lunar Samples from Apollo Missions

The six Apollo missions that landed astronauts on the Moon returned a
collection of rock and soil samples weighing approximately 382 kilograms
(842 pounds) and consisting of 2,196 separate samples. Today there are
more than 110,000 individually numbered subsamples (split, chipped or
sawed pieces) available to investigators for detailed studies. The
collection also includes 16.5 meters (54 feet) of core samples pulled
from the top of the lunar regolith. (The fine-grained, fragmental, loose
material blanketing the Moon is most commonly referred to as soil but it
has none of the organic sediment component as on Earth. The more precise
term is regolith.  The number of samples
increased as the missions progressed, as shown in the table below. Click
on the emblems for more information about the missions from NASA.

Apollo Mission 11 12 14 15 16 17 Total
Number of samples: 58 69 227 370 731 741 2196
Weight in kilograms: 21.8 34.3 42.3 77.3 95.7 110.5 381.7

These missions, the astronauts, the thousands of people who worked to
make the missions possible, and the lunar samples brought back to Earth
were celebrated worldwide.

Today NASA continues to take charge of the curation and allocation of
the Apollo lunar samples. The specially-built Lunar Sample Laboratory
Facility, 30 years old this year, is a class 10K clean room (no more
than 10,000 particles 0.5-micron size per cubic foot of air inside the
laboratory). It is housed in a special building at the Johnson Space
Center in Houston, Texas. Workers wear clean coveralls, hats, gloves,
and shoe covers to minimize contamination.

Meticulous facilities and strict handling procedures ensure the
continued scientific integrity of the Apollo lunar samples for the needs
of the research and engineering communities today and into the future.
About 70% of the total weight of Apollo lunar samples is located in the
Lunar Sample Laboratory's pristine sample vault. "Pristine" lunar
samples (those continuously in NASA custody since return from the Moon)
are stored in multiple layers of packaging in cabinets organized by
mission. They are handled in stainless-steel glove cabinets purged by
high-purity nitrogen gas, which is relatively non-reactive, in an
environment monitored continuously for oxygen and moisture contents to
minimize degradation of the samples or chemical reaction with air.

Approximately 8% of the total weight of the collection is stored in the
returned sample vault. These are samples lent to authorized researchers
and returned to NASA. They are re-inventoried as "returned" because
these samples were exposed to air when they were located in the
investigators' laboratories. The samples are individually bagged,
tagged, and are made available again for other research projects when
contamination is less of a concern.

Another 13% of the total weight is stored in the Brooks Air Force Base
remote storage facility, which was completed in 2002. This
representative sampling of the collection is stored at the second
location to ensure the entire collection would not be lost in the event
of a major hurricane or other catastrophe at Johnson Space Center.

The other 9% of the total weight of lunar samples is currently outside
the custody of the Johnson Space Center. Some are on loan to scientists
and educators for research and teaching projects; others samples are on
loan to museums, planetariums, and public scientific expositions [see
the list of international Lunar Sample Display Locations
<http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/displays/displays.cfm>]; a small
percentage has been destroyed during approved experimentation; and some
pieces of Apollo 11 and Apollo 17 samples were given as official gift
plaques to all the states of the United States, to Puerto Rico, and to
135 foreign nations. U.S. regulations prohibit private ownership of
Apollo lunar samples.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lunar Sample Allocation

The last container of lunar samples from the last Apollo mission was
logged into the lunar laboratory on January 30, 1973. From their first
arrival, the samples from the Apollo Missions have been under continuous
investigation. They are, as you can imagine, highly sought after for
scientific research in cosmochemistry, and for testing hypotheses of the
origin of the Earth/Moon system, planetary formation, and solar system
evolution. The renewed interest in robotic and human exploration of the
Moon has spawned substantial interest in studying lunar materials among
the engineering/resource utilization community. Their studies sometimes
require lunar samples to validate development of tools and processes
using simulants (soils made from Earth materials to mimic lunar
properties). Because of the obviously limited supply of Apollo lunar
samples, NASA has a robust allocation system that has been in place
since the beginning of the collection. It distributes nearly 400 samples
each year.

Lunar Curator, Dr. Gary Lofgren, works with Dr. Meenakshi (Mini) Wadhwa
and CAPTEM (Curation and Analysis Planning Team for Extraterrestrial
Materials), a NASA advisory committee, to meet the needs of scientists
and engineers who wish to obtain the most appropriate materials from the
collection for their studies. Requests are considered for both basic
research in planetary science and for applied studies including lunar
materials beneficiation, resource utilization, toxicity, or hazards
assessment. NASA provides access to the Apollo rocks, soils, and
regolith core samples for destructive and non-destructive analyses.

The checklist for requestors of Apollo lunar samples looks something
like this:

  1. The investigator must demonstrate favorable peer review of
     proposed work involving lunar samples by (1) a formal research
     proposal approved for funding through a NASA program, or an
     equivalent scientific peer-review panel, within the past three
     years, or (2) peer-reviewed articles in professional journals that
     are pertinent to the specific sample request.
  2. The investigator must submit a written request to the Lunar Sample
     Curator specifying the numbers, types, and quantities of lunar
     samples, and the planned investigations to be conducted on these.
     A resume is additionally required for new investigators.

For planetary science studies, the request is submitted to the Lunar
Sample Curator, Dr. Gary Lofgren, at NASA Johnson Space Center. For
engineering/resource utilization studies, the request is submitted to
the Lunar Simulant Curator, Dr. Carlton Allen, also at NASA Johnson
Space Center, who verifies that all necessary tests with lunar simulants
have been completed satisfactorily, and determines whether the request
warrants use of lunar samples, in which case it is forwarded to the
Lunar Sample Curator.

The Lunar Sample Curator evaluates the submitted request and supporting
materials, and makes a curatorial allocation if the request is from an
investigator who has been approved previously for sample allocation by
CAPTEM, and the request is for thin sections, "returned" lunar samples,
or less than one gram of other lunar samples with no pristinity issues.
The Curator otherwise forwards the request to CAPTEM for evaluation if
the request is from a new investigator, and/or the request involves
larger than one gram of material, or any samples with pristinity issues.
Furthermore, with very few exceptions, no lunar sample will be allocated
that reduces the remaining pristine sample below 50% by weight.

The lunar sample requests forwarded to CAPTEM are evaluated by this
standing committee. A positive recommendation by CAPTEM, followed by
approval by NASA Headquarters, constitutes formal approval of the
request. The Lunar Sample Curator prepares a Lunar Sample Loan Agreement
(including a security plan) to be signed by the investigator. Finally,
samples less than 10 grams are shipped within the U.S. by U.S.
registered mail, outside the U.S. by U.S. diplomatic pouch mail to the
American embassy nearest the investigator's location. Samples larger
than 10 grams must be hand carried by the investigator or his/her
representative.


The Apollo lunar samples are a unique, but limited, resource of
extraterrestrial rocks and regolith. Rest assured these treasured
samples are in good hands. The planetary science community has a long
heritage of developing sample-handling protocols and instrumentation for
maximizing science while minimizing the amount of sample consumed. This
approach is a good one and a necessary one for assuring that these lunar
materials will be available for the ongoing testing of hypotheses, old
and new, and development of new instruments, tools, and technologies as
we plan and realize humanity's return to the Moon.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

ADDITIONAL RESOURCES

   * Curation and Analysis Planning Team for Extraterrestrial Materials
     (CAPTEM) <http://www.lpi.usra.edu/captem/>.
   * Lunar Exploration Analysis Group (LEAG) Annual Meeting Agenda

<http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/leag2009/presentations/index.shtml>,
     November 16-19, 2009.
   * Lunar Petrographic Educational Thin Section Set <
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   * Lunar Sample Atlas <http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/samples/atlas/>.
   * Lunar Sample Compendium <
     http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/compendium.cfm>.
   * Moon Archive <../Archive/Archive-Moon.html> articles from
     Planetary Science Research Discoveries.
   * Rocks and Soils from the Moon
     <http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/index.cfm>, website from
     Astromaterials Curation, NASA Johnson Space Center.


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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:09:19 -0800
From: "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
To: "'Phil Morgan'" <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <43b42043ecaa4ea2bf8d8b149b447...@bandli1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Several list members emailed me privately regarding the "Nova" series of
meteorites, whose localities are either unknown or questionable. Learn
something new everyday :)

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Mike Bandli
Historic Meteorites
www.HistoricMeteorites.com
IMCA?#5765
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-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Morgan [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:47 PM
To: Ted Bunch
Cc: Mike Bandli; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite

And other like Lafayette are quite vague as well.  But are there
others that don't even have a home country?

Phil

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ted Bunch <[email protected]> wrote:
Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California
desert, but not LA.

Ted



On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" <[email protected]> wrote:

An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite:

http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge

Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified
with no locality.

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Mike Bandli
Historic Meteorites
www.HistoricMeteorites.com
IMCA?#5765
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:40:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Abdelaziz Alhyane <[email protected]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] be carful
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Dear list members,
A fake youtube virus is going around, i got the message from two people, the logo looks different and I did not open the video.
the message is : x syas that you should see this video.

Anyone else got that message?

Best regards
Aziz






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