<<their claim was for specific minerals, of which a meteorite isn't included>>

There were four claims registered and they were named after four planets, Jupiter, Saturn, Mars and Venus. A map that I saw showed the center of the claims located at the center of the crater. The plan was always to mine for iron, the iron being the meteorite, and this was understood at the time the claims were granted. A limited amount of iron and oxidite (the so-called iron shale) was found inside the crater, including some subsurface pieces brought up from drilling, but apparently nothing substantial.

Ron Hartman

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And in the eyes of the law, a mining claim is a property right, which can be bought, sold, used as collateral, etc. So on one hand, they are the property owners. But a good counter argument is that their claim was for specific minerals, of which a meteorite isn't included.

But the whole incident surrounding Sue was a miscarriage of justice.

Mark B.
Vail, AZ



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Hi Greg and all,

Not a silly question if you like fish! Seriously, the minors who had a legal
claim where the Old Woman was found had their meteorite taken from them. I
don't know off hand if there are any other records out there of anyone else
having this happen.

Sue the dinosaur was taken from the finders after they went to the trouble
of digging her up and had went through the proper channels.

--AL Mitterling

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Now you're just being silly.

I have a question to everyone who hunts Federal Lands:

How many of you were FORCED... FORCED to give your meteorite(s) to the
Smithsonian?


Greg S.

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From: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:13:38 -0600
CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...whathappened
toethics??

No,

But you will have to send half of the fish,
if you catch any, to the Smithsonian...


Sterling Webb
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Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...whathappened
toethics??


Hi Martin and all,

Next thing you know they will be putting a stop to fishing in this
country.

--AL Mitterling

Quoting Martin Altmann :

No, where did I?

Jason.

I like history. I like the Bulletins, I like modern natural science. I
love
meteorites.
And, yes, I like my profession too,
a profession, nobody has to be ashamed of.

These are the four reasons,
why I can't keep mum these years.

Because I simply can't understand: Aren't they seeing, what they are
doing?

If only a single one could explain me,
which the positive effects of the restrictive laws are or were
in Australia, in Canada, in China, in Oman, in Algeria, in Argentina,
in the
Philippines, in Denmark, in Sudan, in Libya, in Namibia, in South
Africa
(?), now in USA, in Poland, in Russia (?), in Switzerland..

then I promise to be much quieter.

Perhaps you can help me with that?
So far I see only, that they risk all.

Thank you
Martin


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jason Utas [mailto:meteorite...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 01:05
An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite-list
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] It's now an even sadder day...what
happened
toethics??

So, what you're saying, Martin, is that you advocate hunters lying
about where they find meteorites so that they can keep them.
Because that was his question.
...Interesting.
Jason



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