Richard Listers  
 
Hi when you have a chance click on this link on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280478300077&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
 
It looks like this could be one of Tims cm wood cubes (might I add I like the 
cm wood cubes he has done)? Well that is what I would assume that its a cm 
cube because that has been the set standard I have seen day in and day out with 
orientation cubes. Now for argument sake, lets say its a inch cube and the only 
reference I can go off of is only the image and the cube with the T on it. By 
default, I would assume its a cm size cube because that has been the set 
standard. But in actuality its the inch cube, or who knows, it could be 2.5 
inch cube or 1.3 inch cube or a foot cube. 
 
Now this can cause some confusion when people use orientation cubes as a set 
standard for scale. When the scale changes in size the orientation cube has no 
use now when a new size is introduced or sizes. I like that he made the inch 
cube in celebration for Counts big find. I think it would have been more 
fitting and fun if he also branded the wooden cubes to say The Count Cube on 
every side to distinguish it from his cm wood cubes that he sells.
 
What might happen is people might  take the inch cube and use it as an 
orientation cube scale and this could cause confusion if you cant see the inch 
etched on one side in the cube because all of the other orientation cubes I 
have seen are cm, the standard that has been used. And also to take in 
consideration not all bidders on eBay are members on the Meteorite Central List.
 
Shawn Alan
 

[meteorite-list] Scale Cubes [WAS: Ad Announcing the "Count" cube Scale / 
Orientation cube]Richard Kowalski damoclid at yahoo.com 
Mon Mar 15 04:32:25 EDT 2010 


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Shawn, Matt, 

If I'm not mistaken, the scale cube was invented specifically for the lunar 
samples brought back by the Apollo missions. 

Obviously, the idea behind using a scale cube is just that, to show the scale 
of the object in the photograph. 

I agree that for good scientific reasons, a scale cube in some metric 
measurement makes the most sense. A cubic centimeter is most common, but why 
not a cubic decimeter or a cubic meter, if those are appropriately sized for 
the object? I have no problem with any sized scale cube as long as the 
dimension is clearly marked and visible in the photograph. 1-cm, 1 inch, no 
matter. There is no "standard" so to speak. The key is to use something of the 
appropriate scale for the object being photographed... 

I have no objection to using other objects too, again as long as they are 
easily identifiable. I might not know what the coin is, if one is being used 
for scale, but I immediately have a general idea how big is probably is. As 
long as I can unambiguously identify it in the photograph, that's all I need. 
If the image is poor and I can't determine exactly what coin it is, much less 
the country of origin, much of the value of using that coin for scale is lost. 

Most car keys are about the same size and have been for a very long time... Put 
them next to your rocks. I'll have some idea how big they are. 

Something that REALLY bothers me is something ambiguous, like dice. They all 
look the same and come in many different sizes. Even the standard ones have no 
markings that tell you they are standard size, or some other size. If you see 
them in a photograph, is it a standard die, a small one from a board game or is 
it a huge novelty die from a game show?? 

I can assume it is a standard die or close to it and get a general scale of the 
object. The same goes for the plastic 1-cm cubes you see in photos that have no 
scale marked on them. By the weight of the object you can guess the cube is 
1-cm, but it's really a bad idea not to include the actual size of your scale 
on your scale object, no matter what size it is! 

Cheers 

-- 
Richard Kowalski 
Full Moon Photography 
IMCA #1081 








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