Hi all!

eBay is not an ordinary auction house. It doesn't handle the goods, it doesn't create a catalogue and it doesn't provide an auction house so all buyers can come and examine the goods before the auction. eBay is an automatic system where the seller and buyer enters all the details. As a seller I add all pictures, a description, starting price and so on. The buyer enters his bids. And when the auction is over the seller handles the transaction, packs the goods and sends it away. If eBay would have twice as many auctions the overhead wouldn't double. They would only need some more computers, the software is the same. It's economy by scale. During 2008 goods for over $60 billion were sold on eBay. In Q4 2009 the revenue were over $2 billion and the earning were more than 50% of that.

As I see it, there isn't a big difference between eBay and companies providing online stores. I had a lot more auctions on eBay before but the community feeling has been lost and the fees is constantly getting higher so I mostly stay away from it.

Somehow every other digital service is getting cheaper as computer science advances, except for paypal and eBay who raises the fees regularly. They can do it because they are big and by all practical means they have a monopoly on online auctions and payment services. They don't need to raise the fees but they can, therefore they do it.

I have a plan and I'm working on an alternative to eBay ... if I finish it I'll tell you more.

;-)

/Göran

[email protected] wrote:
Hello fellow Listees,

As some of you know who attended Michael Blood's Annual Auction at the show in 
Tucson, I am pretty familiar with auctions. In fact, my family and I owned and 
operated one of the largest and most highly diversified auction sales 
organizations in America. Licensed in eight states, we sold everything from 
coins to casino/hotels. So, let me just say this. There isn't a legitimate 
auction house in the country...hell in the world!...that will provide the means 
to advertise, promote and sell your goods for less than EBay. Nor will they 
provide the wide range of seller and buyer services, protections and payment 
methods that are a part of package offered by EBay. It is the best deal I ever 
heard of for both buyers and sellers and that's why they have such tremendous 
market numbers.

Our auction business had a 10% buyer premium AND a 10% seller fee PLUS consignor/sellers were charged for extra advertising position, photos, etc. etc. At an average seller cost of 15%to 20% we still had to beat off sellers with a stick...because we were cheap compared to Sotheby, Bonhams, Phillips and Butterfield whose selling costs can float right up to 40%.
Prau that nothing happens to the guys and gals making the cost decisions at 
EBay.

Regards,

Count Deiro
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Chase <[email protected]>
Sent: Mar 29, 2010 1:13 PM
To: [email protected], [email protected], meteoritecentral 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I thought of an idea on how to get around the 
price increase on eBay on some items


Good Morning Listees and Bottom Feeders..

Isn't this America?  If you want to use a service pay for it.  Do you go to 
McDonalds and decide that the hamburger is too much and try to figure out a way 
to cheat them out of their hamburger?  Do you steal from Walmart if you think 
they are charging too much?  Stealing from eBay is no different.

Why don't all you bottom feeders leave eBay and go off to your second rate 
auction sites that have been mentioned here before.  Leave eBay to the real 
dealers.

Also, could one of you rocket scientists explain to me how a buyer gets hurt 
with the higher fees if an auction starts at a penny or 99cents?  No one is 
forcing you to bid any higher than you would pay for the piece somewhere else.

Gary




Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:30:32 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I thought of an idea on how to get around the 
price increase on eBay on some items

Hi Shawn and all,
Actually, I think that would be an excellent response to the greed
Of eBay. If everyone in the meteorite community did that, it would get
The message across to buyers. Of course, it would have to be a "sliding
Scale" application, as the "shipping and handling" charges would be
Perhaps only $5 above actual shipping cost on some items but could
Go up to hundreds on other items.
SCREW EBAY -These dudes are making BILLIONS on nothing
But their automated system. Not one minute of additional work or
Other overhead has been involved in their 8.75% of cost sellers premium.
It isn't as though they have had to hire more help or pay higher rent
Or deal with increased travel expenses or ONE THING - they just
Arbitrarily decided, "hay, we got millions of sellers now depending on
Us - we can start sucking them dry!" and, like the stinking credit card
Banks jerk people around legally. SCREW EBAY.
I think this is a splendid partial solution.
Way to go Shawn.
Michael



On 3/28/10 10:36 PM, "Shawn Alan" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello List
I have seen this done before on eBay with items I have bought. The seller
would offer the item at buy it now for $2 and the shipping would be 15. Now if
your a seller and offering an item that isn't that much I could see the
seller charging $15 to $40 for shipping and handling/packaging quote un
quote, if they know the item will go for that rate at buy it now or 5 day
auction bid, where it would only go for $2 to $5 at closing, which the
seller would only be charged for the closing cost and not the shipping and
handling cost (that was a long run on sentence). I guess its worth a try on
certain items that sell for a fixed rate.
Just a thought Shawn Alan ______________________________________________
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