Stering, You wrote: "In this reality, the State is usually successful in asserting whatever they wish to assert." Yup, that's pretty much the way it is, Sterling. Greg
> From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:26:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Museum investigation: 'Probably a rock, not > meteorite' > > Well, if The State had used the "touched the > Earth" argument to weasel out of State liability > but still claim the stone, yes, you could counter- > claim ownership if you caught it before it landed. > But you'd have to be careful to never drop it > outdoors, because at that moment, it would > become the property of The State! > > Back in the real world, meteorite laws are > few and vague and meteorite court cases > are scarce indeed. In this reality, the State > is usually successful in asserting whatever > they wish to assert. > > > Sterling K. Webb > --------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yinan Wang" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 4:29 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Museum investigation: 'Probably a rock,not > meteorite' > > > "Then, on the bounce, it touches the Earth and becomes the Property of > The State." > > So if a meteoroid embeds itself into your car, or you catch it before > it hits the ground (ya, improbable as it seems), or if bounces off a > cow and you catch it, does it belong to you now since it did not > become a meteorite? > > - YvW > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Sterling K. Webb > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Any lawyer could argue his way out of this >> dilema with one simple slip. The "meteorite," >> while falling, is a meteoroid, not a meteorite, >> hence it is under God's jurisdiction. >> >> You, your car, your house, your dead dog >> (or cow) are not the Earth. The meteorite only >> becomes a meteorite when it touches the >> Earth, after killing you, perforating your >> car, smashing your house, or killing your >> dog. Then, on the bounce, it touches the >> Earth and becomes the Property of The State. >> >> No harm, no fault. Hand it over, please. >> >> >> Sterling K. Webb >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; "Martin Altmann" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Museum investigation: 'Probably a rock, >> not >> meteorite' >> >> >>> Interesting thought Martin... >>> >>> I wonder what their position would be regarding a meteorite (that >>> belonged >>> to the state) hitting and injuring/killing somebody? >>> >>> Graham, UK >>> >>> ---- Martin Altmann <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> "A lot of people find slag out of glass furnaces and think they are >>>> meteorites as well, they kind of look the same." >>>> >>>> Because those people finding real meteorites, lunars and Martians >>>> aren't >>>> coming to Australia. :-( >>>> >>>> Why? >>>> >>>> Because: "if it was >>>> a meteor it belongs to the WA Government". >>>> >>>> >>>> Other question, would WA Government have paid the fixing of the >>>> roof, if >>>> it >>>> would have been a meteorite? >>>> I mean, then the damage would have caused by a property of the >>>> state, >>>> wouldn't it? >>>> >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>> Von: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von >>>> Jeff >>>> Kuyken >>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. April 2010 16:35 >>>> An: meteorite list >>>> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Museum investigation: 'Probably a rock,not >>>> meteorite' >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/special-features/museum-investigates-meteori >>>> te-claims/story-e6frg1ac-1225837470139 >>>> >>>> Museum investigation: 'Probably a rock, not meteorite' >>>> >>>> >>>> SCIENTISTS investigating claims a meteor fragment the size of a >>>> cricket >>>> ball >>>> >>>> collided into a WA house have confirmed it was almost certainly a >>>> rock. >>>> The >>>> object hit the roof of the home about 4pm on Thursday in the >>>> north-eastern >>>> Perth suburb of Beechboro. >>>> >>>> A female occupant thought it was a meteor. >>>> >>>> The WA Museum today said the object may have fallen from a plane >>>> lowering >>>> its landing gear. >>>> >>>> The museum's head of Earth and Planetary Sciences, Dr Alex Bevan, >>>> yesterday >>>> inspected the object, which he did not suspect was from outer space. >>>> >>>> "Alex did have a look at some photos of the object, but when he did >>>> look >>>> at >>>> it in person, he did not think it was from a meteorite," a museum >>>> spokesperson said. >>>> >>>> "Sometimes rocks get caught in the wheels of planes and as they are >>>> lowering >>>> >>>> their gear they may fall, we just don't know." >>>> >>>> Perth Observatory said it had received a "couple of reports" on >>>> Thursday >>>> night from people phoning to say they had seen a light in the sky. >>>> >>>> "At this stage no one seems to be able to put it all together, but >>>> if it >>>> was >>>> >>>> a meteor it belongs to the WA Government, observatory astronomer >>>> Ralph >>>> Martyn said. >>>> >>>> "The reports at this stage are very sketchy." >>>> >>>> He said the observatory was waiting to inspect a photograph of the >>>> object. >>>> >>>> "A lot of people find slag out of glass furnaces and think they are >>>> meteorites as well, they kind of look the same." >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> Visit the Archives at >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> Visit the Archives at >>>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> >> ______________________________________________ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list [email protected] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
