Just out of curiosity, as I really know little about this... but whose
land is the crater on? I assume it is government-owned land of some
type. Wouldn't this make the meteorites the property of the Egyptian
government? People seem concerned with export law, but is this really
all we should be concerned about? I would think Egypt's public-lands
laws would be a primary question here.
Jeff
On 2010-08-01 1:37 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote:
After talking to some informed sources off-list, I am now of the
opinion that the Kamil specimens on the market are legal. What we are
seeing here is a rehash of the old science-vs-collectors feud from
Nininger's day. (sour grapes)
Egypt has strict laws regarding artifacts, but none regarding
meteorites. No laws were broken in removing these specimens - unless
my sources are wrong, and I don't believe they are.
On 8/1/10, Galactic Stone& Ironworks<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Giancarlo and List,
What an interesting and unfortunate development. Most meteorite
collectors and dealers were unaware of the situation at Kamil crater.
For those on the List who cannot read Italian, here is a Google
translated version of the forum discussion -
http://tinyurl.com/29qqopq
Does this mean that specimens of Kamil in private hands are illegal?
(i.e. Berduc)
Best regards,
MikeG
PS - If these are illegal, then for once, I am glad I didn't receive
any of this iron and don't have any.
On 8/1/10, [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry, I forgot: the forum is essentially in Italian.
Giancarlo
----Messaggio originale----
Da: [email protected]
Data: 01/08/2010 9.24
A: "[email protected]"<meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.
com>
Ogg: Re: [meteorite-list] Writing on Gebel Kamil iron
Sorry, but I cannot help you.
All the meteorites now on the market are illegally collected and sold
because
evidently some persons a little time after our expedition give the
position
of
the crater and of the meteorites.
In fact after our February 2010 mission all the area was declared from
the
military autorities off limits and no permission are released to anybody.
But clearly some persons went illegally in the area without any
permission
and
they collected many meteorite samples to put its in the market, and
evidently
numbered some samples.
The true history about what happened is online in the forum of my
website:
http://www.zerzuraclub.org/index.php?
option=com_fireboard&func=view&id=923&catid=4&Itemid=74#923
Giancarlo Negro
Aloha,
A good friend who acquired a Gebel Kamil iron from me recently noticed
some
writing on it that is visible only in certain viewing angles and
lighting.
It
appears to say SE A8 or SE 48. Does anyone on the list have any
knowledge
of
this writing or what it could mean?
http://astroday.net/Images/gebel.jpg
Gary Fujihara
Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693)
105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720
http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/
http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html
(808) 640-9161<
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